[iwar] Re: Pakistanis hit US Navy...


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Fred / Mohammad:

GForce Pakistan was attributed with over 60 of 300 defacements (20%)
chronicled by http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/ to-date in 
the month of August. (Some many of these defacements hit multiple 
sites total 85+). Whatever is happening, it is massive. (Assuming 
that the attrition.org site gets a significant percentage of all 
hacks done in a given period and that all the hacks are real ones.

Where does hacktivism cross the line into information warfare?

Mohammad Ozair Rasheed asks how do you know these defacements are 
really done by Pakistanis? This is a good question, since all we have 
to go on is the text of the defacements and the attributions on the 
attrition.org site.

This "GForce Pakistan" thing could be a classical disinformation 
operation conducted by persons unknown for tactical/strategic reasons 
not obvious to observers, or it could be the August 2000 graduating 
class exercise for some country's spook school...

I'm sure the Intelligence Analysts of the world have analyzed the 
incidents mentioned, the countries where the sites were hit, the 
sources of the pictures + facts - if all  of the information is not 
available from public sources they probably have a pretty good fix on 
who's doing creating the defacement materials (the people doing the 
defacements may be an entirely different group or groups and there 
may be some copycat defacemenets).

/jc

--- In iwar@egroups.com, Fred Cohen  wrote:
> http://www.emergency.com/ennday.htm
> 
> Cyber-Crime/Computer Viruses/Cyber-War    
> 
> NORFOLK, VA 
> Pakistani Crackers Allegedly Deface Navy Website 
> 



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