RE: [iwar] RE: Cyberterror should be int'l crime?
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:23:07 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: RE: [iwar] RE: Cyberterror should be int'l crime?
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I believe this issue needs a great deal more consideration. Convictions make
convicts, and criminalization drives the amateur hacker into the realm of the
professional, because society burns that bridge for them.
To speak freely, since my background covers a considerably wider scope than
information operations (we're a PMC, a professional military company, and so
guerrilla warfare and terrorism are inside our 'core competence'), once the
'line' is drawn, you don't give the individuals now on the other side much of a
choice. I highly recommend to anyone that's interested that they go pull Bruce
Hoffman's RAND study on anti-terror (as opposed to counter-terror) measures,
including how amnesty actions have allowed retirement of entire operational
groups. I think the expansive view of criminalization, as well as
de-politicization (and thus divorcing any actions of legitimacy), are ill
thought out, poorly executed, and create a self-fulfilling situation: you
leave them nowhere to go but 'down.'
Those interested in motivations might find the 'know your adversary' section of
my intel course of interest:
http://www.7pillars.com/IntelligenceCourse.pdf
Michael Wilson
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, David Alexander wrote:
> I agree that the comparison was badly put, and not very apposite. However,
> while not all hacking is the same as terrorism, some is, and more of it may
> become so. The law needs to be in place to allow people to be prosecuted if
> it is appropriate to do so.
>
> We all know what a joke it has been trying to prosecute people for hacking
> with the wholly inadequate laws that have existed to date within nations,
> and across borders the situation is even worse. I think that laws are
> required and required now.
>
> just my 2c.
>
>
> David Alexander
> Project Manager & Information Security Consultant
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Rosenberger [mailto:junkmail@kumite.com]
> Sent: 14 November 2000 16:55
> To: iwar mailing list
> Subject: [iwar] RE: Cyberterror should be int'l crime?
>
>
> >>Cyberterror Should Be Int'l Crime - Israeli Minister
>
> Put yourself in the shoes of an Israeli or Palestinian whose son died in
> street fighting. How would *you* feel if a bureaucrat compared your loss to
> a
> bad AOL connection?
>
> Hacking isn't the same as terrorism, folks. Just ask any USS Cole sailor on
> eternal patrol. 'Nuff said.
>
> Rob Rosenberger, Vmyths.com editor
> Truth about computer virus myths & hoaxes
> http://www.Vmyths.com
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