Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1520-996637876-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17557 invoked by uid 510); 1 Aug 2001 02:53:40 -0000 Received: from n1.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.51) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 02:53:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1520-996637876-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2001 03:51:16 -0000 X-Sender: tomlins@cam.org X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 1 Aug 2001 03:51:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 96036 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2001 03:50:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2001 03:50:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net) (209.226.175.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 03:50:17 -0000 Received: from oscar.casa.dyndns.org ([64.229.193.177]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010801035016.IXMU20283.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@oscar.casa.dyndns.org> for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:50:16 -0400 Received: from there (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oscar.casa.dyndns.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C76A99FFF for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Organization: me To: iwar@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20010801014851.36543.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010801014851.36543.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <20010801035010.C76A99FFF@oscar.casa.dyndns.org> From: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:50:10 -0400 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] How good is missile defense system? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Slightly crazy idea... If the 'real' reason for the missile defense system is to stop terrorist attacks a question asking who will launch these attacks should be considered? If Russia is not a big risk them why not invite Russia to participate in the design/implimention of the system. Who else could be invited? Assuming it can be made to work (big if IMHO), this would lead to a big chunk of the globe protected against missile attack... Ed Tomlinson On July 31, 2001 09:48 pm, you wrote: > If you can believe this, SecDef Rumsfeld wants to deploy Missle defense > platforms on land air and sea without actually testing them! Not > cad-cam, or computer modeling. He just wants the platforms with > something on them out their. Can you say piss off Russia and break > ABM in 10,000 pieces. Granted, it is a treaty between one country that > no long exists and the US, but Bushes Cold Warriors continue to look > for a cold war, or create one if not. The present OSD crew is without > shame > > --- John Sforza <jsforza@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > I like techy toys as much as the next guy but haven't we played this > > tune > > enough? If I want to deliver any payload in a cost effective manner I > > like a > > small unmanned remotely piloted vehicle - Cheap, inconspicuous and I > > might > > be able to blame somebody else. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 08:23 > > To: Information Warfare Mailing List > > Subject: [iwar] How good is missile defense system? > > > > > > Defense Week > > July 30, 2001 > > In Anti-Missile Test, Target Signaled Its Location > > By John M. Donnelly > > In this month's high-profile anti-ICBM test, a prototype interceptor > > was > > able to find a target warhead partly because the target signaled its > > location to the interceptor for much of the flight, and the > > transmissions > > formed the basis of the targeting orders, according to officials and > > documents. > > The presence of the beacon, or "C-band transponder," on the target > > warhead > > didn't guarantee that the interceptor would find and kill the target > > in the > > July 14 test of President Bush's proposed missile shield. But the > > target-location data gave the interceptor rocket a precise point in > > space at > > which to aim and made its job much easier than would be the case if > > it had > > relied on a ground radar's natural receptors, a Pentagon official > > confirmed. > > What's more, a decoy that flew in the exercise to test the > > interceptor's > > ability to distinguish a fake warhead from a real one had no such > > beacon on > > it. > > ... > > > > > > ------------------ > > http://all.net/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... 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