Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1597-997657153-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24627 invoked by uid 510); 12 Aug 2001 22:59:38 -0000 Received: from n26.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.76) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 22:59:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1597-997657153-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2001 22:59:13 -0000 X-Sender: partners@7pillars.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 12 Aug 2001 22:59:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26507 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 22:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2001 22:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sirius.infonex.com) (63.215.252.2) by mta3 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 22:59:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (partners@localhost) by sirius.infonex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24812 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sirius.infonex.com: partners owned process doing -bs X-Sender: partners@sirius.infonex.com To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200108122248.PAA18951@big.all.net> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.1010812155832.24586C-100000@sirius.infonex.com> From: 7Pillars Partners <partners@7pillars.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Staganography Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not saying we invented stego, but this particular -tradecraft-. MW On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Fred Cohen wrote: > Per the message sent by 7Pillars Partners: > > > Some perspective on this might be interesting. We invented the tradecraft > > being used here, and in fact I discussed it in two public papers: > > Of course steganography has been used for more than 3000 years, so I > would hardly say that anyone present 'invented' it. > ... > > > We've been working on crypto and stego along these lines, and they're useful > > tools for both defense and offense. It may not be within the 'main' topic of > > the mailing lists, but I suspect the interest is out there. > > It is just fine for the mailing list. > > FC > --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > > > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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