Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1615-997921444-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18145 invoked by uid 510); 16 Aug 2001 00:24:29 -0000 Received: from n2.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.52) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 00:24:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1615-997921444-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2001 00:24:04 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 16 Aug 2001 00:24:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 37801 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Aug 2001 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.82) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-2.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id RAA12387 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id RAA15690 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010815165133.00b056a0@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200108140459.VAA22114@big.all.net> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:34:48 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] [NewsBits] NewsBits - 08/13/01 (fwd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Think tank urges face-scanning of the masses The famous Rand >Organization, a putatively non-partisan think tank, has come out in >favor of using face-scanning technology to violate the privacy of the >innocent masses in search of -- you guessed it -- terrorists and >pedophiles, the two most detested fringe-groups on the planet. >Following the regrettable inclinations of all modern governments, a >recent Rand report reckons that the natural rights of the majority of >ordinary, law- abiding citizens should be sacrificed for the sacred >mission of identifying and prosecuting a mere handful of sexually >perverted or homicidal lunatics. >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20966.html I guess the "Rand" in Rand Organization is no reference to Ayn Rand. I concur with the sentiments expressed by "The Register" contributor Thomas C. Greene in his article on this Rand report. I am reminded of the quote from Thomas Jefferson, (paraphrasing): "Those who would sacrifice fundamental liberty for a temporary measure of security deserve neither liberty nor security." I must contrast the technology with, for instance, cryptography. With crypto, there is a natural leveling effect between government and free citizens. The deployment of crypto is easily leveraged by either side of the equation. In contrast, although perhaps facial recognition *software* may become easily available, few but government have the resources to deploy, coordinate and cross-index a million camera feeds. This appears to be a technology that tilts the balance of power far in favor of the controlling regime. ___tony___ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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