Re: [iwar] Digest Number 513

From: Ed Tomlinson (tomlins@cam.org)
Date: 2001-09-13 04:44:51


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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:44:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: [iwar] Digest Number 513
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What about pencils?  They are pointed and could be used
to hurt people...  I think we need to realize that "weapons"
_will_ get onto flights.  What is needed is a way to cope
with these.  IMHO it could be very effective to deputdize
trust people and supply them with arms (pepper spray, mace,
at the very least - with some maybe guns...). 

Ed Tomlinson

On September 12, 2001 06:43 pm, Tim Weaver wrote:
> They didn't need ground help.  Until today (9/12) you
> could carry a folding knife w/a non-serrated blade up
> to 4" long onto the plane.  I know, I have done it as
> have many of my friends.  Look for Leatherman tools
> and tiny Swiss Army knives to get banned along with
> the butter knives in airline food service (how long
> will this last in First Class??)  :)
>
> Seattle mentioned banning any carry-ons other than a
> wallet...women's purses included.  This is going to
> get ridiculous.
>
> "Those who would trade freedom for security deserve
> neither."  Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> Message: 11
>    Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:26:52 -0500
>    From: "Leo, Ross" <Ross.Leo@csoconline.com>
> Subject: RE: Thoughts
>
> Add to this the strong likelihood that the perps had
> help from insiders (probably Catering/Provisioning
> crew or aircraft housekeeping - none of whom
> have any form of meaningful background checking done
> on them) that could have planted virtually any type of
> weapon - including knife-type items  - and
> you have a perfect formula to execute this type of
> operation.
>
> The folks/groups involved had no need of any sort of
> sophisticated devices.  They did not need planning any
> longer term than a few months at most:   IOW - just
> enough time to accomplish planting their insider, time
> to pick the most easily compromised airports, etc.
>
>
>
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