Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1889-1000480730-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25550 invoked by uid 510); 14 Sep 2001 15:19:12 -0000 Received: from n30.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.80) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 15:19:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1889-1000480730-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.55] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2001 15:18:51 -0000 X-Sender: clcook76@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 14 Sep 2001 15:18:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 26783 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 14:08:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Sep 2001 14:08:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14203.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.172.145) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 14:08:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20010914140835.71349.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.62.69.70] by web14203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:08:35 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200109141256.f8ECun729900@deakin.edu.au> From: Christopher Cook <clcook76@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Possible mid-east cyber attacks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ditto I am archiving everything for a more quite time to dig into it in detail. I guess that is the historian in me. Christopher Cook MCSE --- VERNON THOMAS STAGG <vstagg@deakin.edu.au> wrote: > > Hey Fred, > > Congrats to you for all your work. I have found > myself > quite busy last couple of months and am trying to > catch up with > all the iwar and other subscribed groups' messages. > Admittedly > there is a fair amount of information not > necessarily specific > to my (or others) area of expertise/research but > that should be > up to us to decide and filter out. > > I do appreciate this list and all the information it > does provide > however and am certainly happy to be inundated with > information! > > Vernon > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: Mohammad Ozair Rasheed > Date: Fri 9/14/01 22:38 > To: Info War > Subject: RE: [iwar] Possible mid-east cyber attacks > > Good point. > > Regards, > Ozair > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:56 PM > To: iwar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [iwar] Possible mid-east cyber attacks > > > My objective in these efforts for extensive coverage > of specific events > is to provide a record of what is going on in terms > of information > warfare. That ranges from propaganda to technical > attacks. At times > like this, there is a great deal of propaganda, and > I try to provide a > collection of it for analysis and because I find it > interesting. On the > other hand, if the list members do not want to get > this, I can certainly > provide less of it. > > I personally find it fascinating that after an > attack such as this the > people with financial and political interests back > off for a few hours > and then push themselves right back into the market. > I also find it > disconcerting that personal liberties are under > threat and that these > political and financial agendas are often aided by > the pain and > suffering of others. > > In terms of 'holding the bag' I find the resulting > collection of > information highly informative and worthy of > analysis. That's why I > keep it as a collection on my web site for others to > review at their > leisure. > > In terms of fearmongers, I doubt that they like much > of the iwar > content. After all, they always have to face your > comments and those of > others who point out their fearmongering for what it > is. > > FC > > Per the message sent by Junkmail Rosenberger: > ... > > Come now, young man! When will you gain control > of your cyberwar > > fetish? > ... > > Computer security firms like Vigilinx will exploit > the physical > > atrocity for its fearmongering value ... and then > the media will > > realize they've once again got a piece-of-shit > news story ... and > > they'll drop it on the sidewalk and walk away > (without washing their > > hands) ... and you'll be one of the fetishists who > gets caught holding > > > the bag. Just like always. > > > Fearmongers love your cyberwar fetish.... > > --This communication is confidential to the parties > it is intended to > serve-- > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & > Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > fc@all.net The University of New > Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > http://all.net/ Sandia National > Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > > > > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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