Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2540-1001897606-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9934 invoked by uid 510); 1 Oct 2001 00:54:53 -0000 Received: from n34.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.84) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 00:54:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2540-1001897606-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.223] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2001 00:54:44 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 00:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 98173 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 00:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.223 with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 00:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 00:54:43 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id RAA17711 for iwar@onelist.com; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:54:43 -0700 Message-Id: <200110010054.RAA17711@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Taliban:.bin.Laden.Under.Our.Control] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Taliban: bin Laden Under Our Control By KATHY GANNON .c The Associated Press ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) - A Taliban envoy said Sunday the Afghan militia has Osama bin Laden under its control at a secret location for his own safety and is willing to negotiate with the United States if Washington provides evidence bin Laden was involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The offer to negotiate was rejected by Washington. The Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef said bin Laden was in an undisclosed place for ``his safety and security.'' ``He's in Afghanistan,'' Zaeef told reporters. ``He is under our control, Wherever he is, he's in a secret place but that doesn't mean that he is out of the control of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. He's in a place which cannot be located by anyone.'' Zaeef spoke in the Pashto language, and his English interpreter added the phrase ``only security people know where he is.'' The Taliban envoy criticized the United States for failing to provide evidence linking bin Laden to the attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon. ``The position of the two countries is very different,'' he said. ``They are thinking of direct attacks. We are thinking of negotiation. They have provided no evidence but they want the man.'' White House chief of staff Andrew Card quickly rejected any negotiations. ``The president has said we're not negotiating,'' Card said on Fox News Sunday. ``We've told the Taliban government what they should be doing. They've got to turn not only Osama bin Laden over but all of the operatives of the al-Qaida organization. They've got to stop being a haven where terrorists can train.'' President Bush has demanded the Taliban turn over bin Laden unconditionally and without negotiation. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on NBC's Meet the Press that he questions anything the Taliban says. Zaeef said that if the United States talked to the Taliban and produced evidence, ``we will respect their negotiations and that might change things. If they attack without any evidence or unless this case goes through the proper court process, any attack will be a terrorist attack. We condemn terrorist attacks throughout the world.'' Zaeef's statement was the first time that a Taliban official has publicly admitted that bin Laden is under their control since the September attacks. First the Taliban claimed bin Laden was missing, and then later said they had delivered a message to him from the Afghan clergy asking him to leave the country voluntarily. However, the previous statements did not make clear whether bin Laden was under Taliban control or simply hiding out somewhere with his thousands of followers in the al-Qaida terrorist organization. The Taliban did not indicate bin Laden's whereabouts, nor did they say whether he is in custody. However, sources with knowledge of the Taliban said there were ``indications'' that he was in Bagran district of Helmand province, about 100 miles northwest of Kandahar a few days after the Sept. 11 attacks. The area is lined with mountains, easily defended and close enough to Kandahar, the seat of the Taliban authority, to enable the religious militias to keep in touch with bin Laden. Pakistan has been trying to convince the hard-line leadership that it risks its very survival by refusing to surrender bin Laden, a move the Taliban say would conflict with Afghan customs and their interpretation of Islamic tenets. Earlier this month, about 1,000 Islamic scholars met and recommended that bin Laden leave the country voluntarily at a time of his own choosing. The United States said that fell short of its demands. The Taliban have said bin Laden is aware of the clerical request but Zaeef said ``we have had no response'' from the Saudi exile. ------------------------ Yahoo! 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