Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2556-1001942966-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 01 Oct 2001 06:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32429 invoked by uid 510); 1 Oct 2001 13:29:35 -0000 Received: from n35.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.85) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 13:29:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2556-1001942966-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2001 13:29:26 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 1 Oct 2001 13:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 61388 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 13:29:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2001 13:29:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 13:29:24 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id GAA23773 for iwar@onelist.com; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:29:23 -0700 Message-Id: <200110011329.GAA23773@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Why.America.has.already.Lost.the.War] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Why America has already Lost the War (Moshe Feiglin, Arutz-7 IsraelNational News.com 9/28/01) DID I HEAR RIGHT? That Thursday I already realized that America had lost the war. I came to the US for four days for a meeting that was to have been held in Manhattan on Tuesday evening, September 11. The meeting didn't take place and no one could get in or out of the great city. I'm not sure if all those invited to the meeting are still alive. There were no flights back home, and all that remained to do was to listen to the reports and hope for a place on the first flight returning to Israel. I never stay abroad on Shabbat. The trip is more costly and less efficient, but that's the way it is; my own rule. I had now missed out on Shabbat in Eretz Israel and I could only pray that I would be home in time for Rosh Hashana. It was impossible to get away from the reports of the massacre in downtown Manhattan. The news was everywhere: on the air, at home, in the car, in the shops. I entered the neighborhood grocery store. The storekeeper's radio was on. President Bush was speaking to the American people: "I declare tomorrow to be a day of prayer," said the President. "I ask every American, during lunch time tomorrow to pray for all the injured, their families, and the American nation. Go to church, to the synagogue, to the mosque and pray," ended the President. "Did I hear right?" I ask the storekeeper, "Did he say mosque?" She nodded. "At this very moment you've just lost the war," I say to the astonished storekeeper, and start looking for what I need on the shelves. When the black boxes of the hijacked airplanes are recovered, we will hear the pilots screaming "Allahu Akbar" in the last moments before the crash. They slaughtered the Americans in the name of Allah, and now the President calls on them to pray to him. ISRAEL'S MISTAKE During the first hours, it seemed that the American revenge would be horrifying and terrible. But as the hours passed, and the days, the American tiger turned out to be a helpless kitten. The American President was busy running after the countries of the world, trying to set up a strange coalition against a few cave dwellers in Afghanistan, while senators explained on live television to the American people that "we must remember that the enemy is the terrorists, not Islam." America has been trapped by the same weakness that has visited Israel in recent years: an inability to identify the enemy and fight it. Regarding Israel:The State of Israel was founded on the notion that the Jewish people are a "normal" people like all other nations, with similar Western cultural values.Accordingly, Israel's disputes with its neighbors are also "normal" territorial issues that could be resolved in a logical manner. But in truth, the Jewish people are not "normal" and their conflicts are not "normal" ones. The war being waged against us is not about territories, but rather about our very existence as a Jewish nation. It is a war against our message and our mission. That is what our enemies are fighting against - but we respond to them through our own subjective interpretation of reality: we speak of security and of territories. We fail to understand why they refuse to accept even all the territory. "The Emperor has no clothes!" Arafat shouts at us and murders three people in Netanya. "Do you want us to wear something else in your honor?" Peres asks. "He's naked!" shouts Arafat and murders a young mother from Alfei Menashe. "Perhaps we'll wear red for you?" asks Beilin. Arafat continues to attack us, and we continue to propose solutions that fail to admit the naked reality. It is no wonder we are losing the war. …AND THE U.S. MISTAKE The same is now happening to America. While America is not a Christian country, it is the standard-bearer of Western culture which draws from Christian culture. Why do the terrorists hate the US so much? Why are they prepared to commit suicide in order to kill Americans? After all, America has not conquered their country. On the contrary, many of them receive generous aid from the US. How strange that even Arabs in New Jersey, who are actually living in the fleshpots of America and were liable to have suffered physically from the terrorist attack, rejoiced at the sight of the horrible massacre. Why this hatred? Two daughters branched out from Judaism and left the fold to conquer the world: Christianity and Islam.Judaism integrates the qualities of strict justice and mercy, in harmony and in proper measure. Christianity took only the quality of mercy, while Islam took the quality of strict justice. The Moslems see with jealousy how the culture based on Christian mercy succeeds in gaining control over the world. Let everyone come and benefit from the cornucopia open to all, the American-Christian culture says; to everyone we proffer the other cheek, and even the whole body. Come and take your part in the wealth, come and enter the gates of the World Trade Center. We aren't conquering you with the sword, but with gold. "Why are they bringing their wars here?" a soot-covered broker shouted into a CNN reporter's microphone. He didn't understand that he himself was engaged in conquering, not territories, but the opposing culture, straight from there - from the Twin Towers. But every Moslem child understands it clearly. What the political commentators and senators in the US fail to realize is crystal clear to the other half of the world. America is not at war with a single individual - Bin Laden - but with every child that will be born tomorrow in Cairo, Amman, Beirut, Gaza and, if he is a Moslem, even in New Jersey. FACE UP: IT'S A RELIGIOUS WAR America will never admit that it is involved in a war of cultures, in fact in a religious war. Such an admission implies that American values are fundamentally at question. But the fact is that they are not as universal as Americans would like to believe. The happiness they pursue in the name of all humanity may be happiness for a specific group based on Christianity, but it means hell for another group that is just as large. But it appears that this other half is now beginning to attempt to actualize its own aspirations for happiness (via rivers of blood). America will never admit it, and consequently will be unable to fight back, because they have failed to identify the enemy. They seek the terrorists just as Sharon is pursuing individual terrorists. They are pursuing the wasps instead of destroying the nest, because they are afraid of the nest. They are afraid of a real confrontation between their values and those of Islam. They want a coalition with moderate Arab countries. The situation is so ludicrous that even Arafat is being wooed - Arafat, who invented hijacking; Arafat, the father of 20th-century terrorism. They want to make a coalition with him, if only to avoid facing reality. They will in fact catch the wasps. Bin Laden doesn't stand a chance. He won't be able to escape the power of the US. And then what? Today every Arab child wants to be a Shahid, a martyr for Islam. Bin Laden will enter the pantheon of the Shahids, but another million are waiting their turn and they are impatient. America is waging a physical war against a metaphysical enemy. They are incapable of understanding what we in Israel witness every day -- overjoyed parents of suicide bombers. In the coming months, we will see a lot of military planes take off and land. We will see destroyers and missiles and millions of tons of TNT exploding in the Iraqi desert and in Afghanistani caves. They will kill thousands of innocent people and in the end America will lose -- because it failed to identify the true enemy. This campaign is called Infinite Justice - but this justice has no aim, and will therefore actually lack justice. If only America had the clairvoyance and the moral fortitude to face up to reality, America could win easily, without a coalition, without deploying armies and without senseless killings. SELF-IMPOSED CENSORSHIP America is too busy deceiving itself. Not only the politicians, but everyone in the population. An interesting phenomenon I noticed was the self-imposed censorship of the American media. I sat and watched as the drama unfolded live on television. In the first hour, there were live broadcasts from Ramallah and Shechem, in which the "Palestinian" masses could be seen rejoicing over the massacre in Manhattan. I was pleased to see the pictures broadcast for all to see. Suddenly the reports ceased as if they had never happened. I don't believe that the American administration contacted the media networks and told them not to screen them. It happened naturally: don't show the American people a reality that conflicts with its fundamental values. "We shall preserve the American way of life and win" was the message. Instead of the joyous footage from Ramallah, there began to appear an endless stream of interviews with American professors having Arab names and speaking with Arabic accents. The message was this: Here is a Moslem professor called Ahmed - but he is also an American. "I vehemently condemn this attack," one said, "and the majority of Arabs are not like these despicable terrorists.But," he continued in a knowledgeable manner, "when you aid the Israeli occupation of Palestine, you cause more Arabs to be on the side of the terrorists, rather than on my side". Hence Israel is out of the coalition. Even the offer of a crack rescue unit from Israel that was ready within hours to come and help was courteously declined [ed. note: likely causing the deaths of additional Americans under the ruins.] Israel is the mistress that must be hidden, while Arafat, the king of terrorism, is courted as the legitimate wife.It's actually better this way, since at the end of the day America is not truly Israel's ally - but we'll leave that issue for another time. THE AD THAT WASN'T The day after the attack, a wealthy American acquaintance approached me and asked for my comments on the situation. He then surprised me by making this offer: "I'll pay for a full-page ad in the New York Times - and I want you to compose it." I didn't want to do it, because America's war isn't my war and because I had hoped that this well-meaning Jew would direct his financial resources to far more important endeavors in which we are engaged in the Land of Israel. However, the man persisted, so I composed the following quick draft: I T ' SAC U L T U R A L /R E L I G I O U SW A R We can kill a million Bin Ladens, but they will continue to celebrate. [Photo of Arabs celebrating in the streets.] They have destroyed our symbols. [Photo of the twin towers going up in flames] We must destroy their symbols. [Photos of the El-Aksa mosque on the Temple Mount and the Kaba building in Mecca.] Shocked? Americans don't do such things? Right. Therefore, America will continue to be destroyed until we understand. (end of ad) My friend was astonished, "But they'll start a religious war!" he exclaimed, "Can you imagine what acts of vengeance will result from this?" "And what have you suffered just now?" I asked him. "Do you think that they only killed several thousand people, because at the moment they don't hate you so much?" "This is a religious war," I explained to him, "They aren't afraid to die. They have sanctified death, they die with the name of Allah on their lips, and seventy virgins are waiting for them in Paradise. You don't frighten them with your bombs. At best, you'll turn them into Shahids. They have directed their attack against your god. You have no alternative but to direct your attack against theirs. When you destroy their god, they will become powerless and come back down to this world. They will suddenly be frightened by the sound of footsteps and by the drop of a pin. They will know that not only do they understand your language, but you understand theirs, and you are fighting them according to their own rules." "Think about it," I added."How many people are you going to kill in vain, and how easy it would be to win this war without killing anyone." My friend was convinced, but in the end decided not to run the ad. ----- I am worried by what is to come. Since America is going to lose, tremendous frustration is going to build up in the American population. The Twin Towers will only be the beginning. The success of the terrorist attack will create an unconquerable desire among every Arab child to claim his share of martyrdom. Terrorist attacks will increase and America won't have an answer. The Arab professor's words of incitement will then start ringing true to American ears: Israel is the problem and, by extension, so are the Jews. There won't be large-scale pogroms in America: small ones maybe, but not the kind we became accustomed to in Europe. After all, there is something too good about the American people that won't allow it. But how will a Jew show his face in the street when every American is convinced that he has lost his job and his property and that his relatives are being killed in terrorist attacks and in an endless war - all because of the Jews? My return trip to Israel was no picnic. I sat at the airport in uncertainty for nearly 24 hours with thousands of others, until I managed to board one of the El Al shuttle flights returning the stranded Israelis home. "If this is the line of Israeli visitors wanting to go home," I thought to myself, "how long will the line be when American Jews rush to come home to Israel?" I always kneel and kiss the ground when I return home. Our holy land had never received as warm a kiss from me as it did this time. Murray L. Sragow <a href="mailto:msragow@eclipse.net?Subject=Re:%20(ai)%20[Fwd:%20Israel%20Report%20-%20Special%20Issue]%2526In-Reply-To=%2526lt;3BB7F3CA.58E69516@speconsult.com">msragow@eclipse.net</a> Commercial Software, Inc. Home - (201) 836-2204 Work - (212) 207-0786 ------------------------ Yahoo! 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