Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2606-1002027857-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 02 Oct 2001 06:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13177 invoked by uid 510); 2 Oct 2001 13:04:26 -0000 Received: from n23.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.73) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 13:04:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2606-1002027857-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.55] by n23.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2001 13:04:17 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 2 Oct 2001 13:04:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 65554 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 13:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2001 13:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 13:03:54 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id GAA03296 for iwar@onelist.com; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 06:03:42 -0700 Message-Id: <200110021303.GAA03296@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Eavesdrop.Now,.Reassess.Later] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <a href="http://www.politechbot.com/docs/patriot.act.100101.pdf">http://www.politechbot.com/docs/patriot.act.100101.pdf> A 122-page draft (PDF) of the Patriot Act, obtained by Wired News, says that police could conduct Internet wiretaps in some situations without court orders, that judges' ability to reject surveillance requests would be sharply curtailed, and that the powers of a secret federal court would be expanded. The measure, prepared by House Judiciary chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisconsin) and Rep. John Conyers (D-Michigan), is the product of two weeks of painstaking, closed-door negotiations between Congress and the Bush administration. Sensenbrenner and Conyers hope their alterations to Bush's proposal will assuage some of the concerns that conservative, libertarian, and civil libertarian groups have raised. It doesn't seem to have worked. The American Civil Liberties Union is urging Congress to reject the Patriot Act, saying it hands police far too much power. Congress is considering the legislation in response to the Sept. 11 terrorists attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the worst in the nation's history. "While the (Patriot Act) deleted the provision allowing for use of foreign government wiretapping, it retained virtually all of the other problems of the administration's proposal," says Greg Nojeim, deputy director of the ACLU's legislative office. The wiretapping section Nojeim is talking about is one of the most controversial portions of President Bush's "Anti-Terrorism Act" -- and it does not appear in the House Judiciary's Patriot Act. The Bush administration had proposed that Echelon, the National Security Agency's shadowy data-collection system operated in conjunction with friendly nations, could be used to spy on Americans. Information gathered from Echelon and other electronic surveillance by foreign governments could be used against Americans "even if the collection would have violated the Fourth Amendment," according to the Justice Department's analysis of the bill. Last week, the House Judiciary committee abruptly postponed a scheduled vote on anti-terrorism legislation until this week. In his weekly radio address on Saturday, Bush urged Congress to approve his legislation -- which does not include an expiration date. "In the long campaign ahead, (federal agents) will need our continued support, and every necessary tool to do their work," Bush said. "I'm asking Congress for new law enforcement authority, to better track the communications of terrorists, and to detain suspected terrorists until the moment they are deported." Under both the administration's proposal and the House Judiciary's draft Patriot Act: € Police wiretap powers would be expanded, and the utility of the FBI's Carnivore surveillance system increased. Any U.S. attorney or state attorney general could order the installation of the FBI's Carnivore Net-surveillance system in emergency situations without obtaining a court order first. Voicemail messages would be easier for law enforcement investigators to obtain. A search warrant would be required, instead of a wiretap order that brings with it a higher level of court scrutiny. € Wiretapping would become easier. Currently, police are required to perform "normal investigative procedures" before tapping, a requirement that would no longer apply. € The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), a law that created a secret court to approve spy investigations, would be broadened and made more powerful. One way in which the two proposals differ is that the Bush plan allowed for the indefinite detention of immigrants who were suspected terrorists. According to the draft Patriot Act, the indefinite detention is limited to after prosecutors secure a deportation order. Brad Jansen of the Free Congress Foundation said he's worried about yet another draft anti-terrorist bill being written by Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont). "There are things we want deleted. We're trying to keep out the 'Know Your Customer' -- the Senate Democrat money laundering -- proposal," Jansen said, on grounds it violates Americans' rights to financial privacy. Leahy's bill, which appears to be gaining support in the Senate, is called the "Strengthening Our Domestic Security Against Terrorist Act." On Tuesday, his committee is scheduled to continue a hearing on the topic. The Patriot Act stands for "Provide Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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