Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2715-1002288212-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 05 Oct 2001 06:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16638 invoked by uid 510); 5 Oct 2001 13:23:34 -0000 Received: from n13.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.63) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2001 13:23:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2715-1002288212-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2001 13:23:33 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 5 Oct 2001 13:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 97815 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2001 13:23:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Oct 2001 13:23:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2001 13:23:32 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id GAA18208 for iwar@onelist.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 06:23:31 -0700 Message-Id: <200110051323.GAA18208@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 06:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Some.In.G.O.P..Balk.At.Growing.Federal.Role] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New York Times October 5, 2001 Some In G.O.P. Balk At Growing Federal Role By Alison Mitchell and Richard L. Berke WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 - Little more than three weeks after the terrorist attacks, some conservative Republicans are pointedly challenging the Bush administration on the scope of the stated campaign against terrorism and its new receptiveness to an expanded federal government. The dissension was initially muted as the president moved the nation onto a wartime footing after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But in recent days it has started to break out into the open on Capitol Hill. And while most lawmakers had thought the mood of bipartisanship was too good to last, they had expected relations to fray between Republicans and Democrats. Instead, many say, the tensions are most acute right now within the Republican Party. Mr. Bush is facing challenges from the very conservatives who were once his base. At one Senate hearing on Wednesday Senator Phil Gramm, Republican of Texas, hotly condemned the administration's approach to economic stimulus, arguing that the White House was sanctioning big spending and giving up too easily on conservative tax-cutting priorities. "It looks to me as if we're moving toward a package which I'm not going to vote for," Mr. Gramm told Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill. In an interview today, the senator said, "The whole idea of even trying to balance the budget or controlling spending seems to have been thrown out the window. I can't turn that quickly. I've got whiplash." At a recent closed-door briefing for House members on the military buildup, Representative Dana Rohrabacher, Republican of California, accused Secretary of State Colin L. Powell of leaving the job undone at the end of the Persian Gulf war, which Mr. Bush's father halted with the Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein still in power. Mr. Powell was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the war. "I confronted him directly on the floor in front of everybody," Mr. Rohrabacher said today. "I didn't say you were the one who stopped us from getting Saddam Hussein. I did draw the analogy that we had not finished the job in Iraq." Like Mr. Rohrabacher, many conservatives and neo-conservatives, including some Democrats, argue that Mr. Bush cannot limit a war on terrorism to Osama bin Laden. In a letter to the president circulated by William Kristol, who was chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle, several signers, including Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, the former United Nations delegate, wrote that killing Mr. bin Laden could not be the only goal of the struggle and endorsed a "determined effort" to oust Mr. Hussein. Republican officials are careful not to criticize Mr. Bush personally or to question his conduct in responding to the terror attacks. Mr. Gramm blamed the Democrats for pushing new spending programs. And Mr. Rohrabacher said he had faith in Mr. Bush, describing him as "more like Ronald Reagan than his father." Internal Republican struggles began almost as soon as Mr. Bush promised New York's senators in the week of the attack that an extra $20 billion would be dedicated largely to New York. Senator Don Nickles of Oklahoma, the second-ranking Senate Republican, and Mr. Gramm raised questions that kept negotiations going well into the night. Now some Republicans, who thought Mr. Bush's election heralded a golden era for conservatives, say they are shocked at how quickly the antigovernment sentiment of the 1990's has shifted. For them it seems like an eon ago that candidate George W. Bush lampooned Al Gore, saying that Mr. Gore trusts the government while he trusts people. Senator George V. Voinovich, Republican of Ohio, cited concerns in the party over the shape of the economic recovery package and the efforts to give the government responsibility for airline security. "Some of the things being recommended are New Deal, Great Society-type things that are going to cost an enormous amount of money," Mr. Voinovich said. Moreover, Congressional Republicans themselves are not seeing eye to eye. Senator John McCain of Arizona, the ranking Republican on the Commerce Committee, has become a strong proponent of putting the government in charge of airline security. But Representative Bob Barr, Republican of Georgia, has gone from fighting to tone down some of the surveillance proposals in the administration's antiterrorism package to fighting against the idea of federalizing airline security. "To me as a conservative, I look at a problem and ask, Is this a federal function?" Mr. Barr said. "Faced with the crisis we make the illogical jump that the government is the only one that can do it." When Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta told Republican leaders at a meeting today that the White House would have to put the government in charge of airline security to win over Democrats, Representatives Dick Armey and Tom DeLay, the second- and third-ranking House leaders, rebelled, Republican aides said. The White House today made efforts to tamp down the Republican discontent, bringing an array of party leaders to the White House. Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, noted in his daily briefing that the president had said "it's important that people in Congress don't start inventing or designing new systems, newfangled notions." "He also thinks it would be a mistake if people tried to engage in a whole series of new government programs," Mr. Fleischer said. Representative Thomas M. Davis III of Virginia, the chairman of the House Republicans' re-election efforts, said he was aware of some of his colleagues' grousing. But Mr. Davis said it was misplaced, adding, "It's not a time to get hard-core partisan." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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