Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2951-1003127925-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19032 invoked by uid 510); 15 Oct 2001 06:38:29 -0000 Received: from n13.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.63) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 06:38:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2951-1003127925-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.224] by n13.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2001 06:38:18 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 15 Oct 2001 06:38:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 61275 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 06:38:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 15 Oct 2001 06:38:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14507.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.70) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 06:38:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20011015063844.80593.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.22.11.198] by web14507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:38:44 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9qdh15+r28v@eGroups.com> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Clash of interests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand what you say, but US Presidents are constrained my several factors. I do feel that we could do ourselves a great deal of good by moderating our relationshup with Isreal-no, not dump them over the side-just take the position of the "honest broker" and develope better relations thru a better understanding of the arab world. --- Ozair Rasheed <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> wrote: > http://www.dawn.com/weekly/dmag/dmag1.htm > > > Clash of interests > > > By S.A. ABIDI > > American interest has always remained poles apart from world > interest. It is high time > Washington took a cue from history. > > How many times the presidents of the United States of America have > vowed to protect > American interests the world over with the resolve of 'whatever it > might take'? Was it > not in 1853 when Japan, living peacefully and wishing to be left > alone, was forced by the > American gun-boats to open up its trade to satisfy American > interests? When they obeyed, > and bought the new technology and developed it for a century, it > turned out to be too > much for American comfort! > > The same American interest required the destruction of two industrial > > cities of this > defeated nation, killing a large number of innocent civilians, as > America tested a newly > developed weapon of mass destruction. > > As soon as America mass-produced Automobile, the entire oil reserve > of the Middle East > turned into an American interest and still remains so, with the > addition of Central Asian > reserves and the access route to them through Afghanistan. > Manipulating oil purchases for > a pittance, America grew filthy rich and contrived a proxy state to > terrorize the people > of the oil-yielding area to keep the oil prices low. > > When the excessive use of cheap oil threatened life on earth and the > mankind screamed, > the incumbent president of the largest polluter nation found in his > great wisdom that it > would not be in the American interest to spend money on reducing the > undesirable > emissions. > > It proposed an International Criminal Court, but wanted to be > excluded from its > jurisdiction ostensibly for being a super-power assuming the policing > > role, but actually > claiming license to use all devices outside the pale of law in self- > interest. It is the > political and democratic norm for every presidential candidate to > promise greater riches > to the already prosperous American citizens endlessly, with no > concern for the rest of > the world. > > It may be satisfying to feast over the resources of the world in the > short term, but > over-consumption by itself is not a sustainable activity. In the > scheme of nature, the > Law of Natural Selection does not favour overgrown organizms. When > the crunch came on > food supplies, the dinosaur was the first to become extinct while the > > smaller animals > lived on. > > In the realm of human society also, we find that the State is a self- > limiting system in > terms of its size and magnitude of power. Super- power may be a new > name but an old > phenomenon. History has witnessed such unchallenged powers as the > Roman Empire and the > Arab Empire collapsing under their own weight, not being able to keep > > the state apparatus > integrated and operational due to their enormous sizes and complex > needs. > > The USSR was the latest causality, which has left behind the rival > USA on the anvil of > history, to be hammered and reshaped into a more acceptable member > for the world > community. Call it natural justice or the process of cause and > effect, strange things > happen to super-powers. The leadership become complacent and > arrogant, losing touch with > the pains of those who suffer at their hands. > > The citizens getting used to secure and easy living tend to become > indolent, > pleasure-loving and negligent towards serious aspects of life. The > individual, who is the > brick that build the edifice of society, thus deteriorates in > quality. No wonder the > half-wild soldiers fighting for Hannibal found the well-drilled > Romans soft and > frightened in the battlefield, and Changez Khan's barbarians saw the > famous Persian and > Chinese armies run away along with their emperors after giving a > brief fight. > > The contemporary scene seems to be not too different, and shows the > quality of individual > in poor light. The myth of the great Russian Army and its state-of- > the-art weapons > exploded in Afghanistan as did the mighty American forces in Vietnam. > > > The incidents of American helicopters hitting against their own troop > > carrier in the > desert of Iran; their planes shooting at their own forces and the > Navy destroying a > civilian passenger plane during the Gulf War; the greatest > intelligence and surveillance > network in the world not knowing what was happening under its own > nose a few weeks ago, > are all indications, if not the proof, of the malaise their society > suffers from. > > The great American industrial juggernaut also finds its own human > product deficient and > unable to run without the contribution of the vibrant intellect > imported from the > so-called backward countries. > > Terrorism, like super-power, is also a new name for an old > phenomenon. The Vikings, the > Vandals, the Huns and the Mongol herds terrorized the civilized world > > for excluding them > from the march of progress. The fact that they dissolved themselves > in the vanquished > societies after breaking through the closed doors, is proof that > their aim was not to > impose their beliefs on others or to hate the way of life of the > rest, but to join them > as equals. > > Terrorism, therefore, is not a disease, but a symptom, although > painful and undesirable > for the victim as well as the perpetrator. Centuries ago, when > leaders of terrorist clans > could not be bought and compatible weapons were available to all, it > took pitched battles > to settle the issue. In the modern context, however, the covert acts > of the super-powers > to deprive others, and to overwhelm them by their superior power, > leave no option for > their humiliated victims, but to sneak and strike at their oppressor > to make them think, > if not to obey. > > Let us think and conjure up a scenario that the US fears most, to > find how bad it could > be: it has withdrawn its arms supplies, diplomatic and financial > support from Israel. The > under-developed world is helped to develop without any covert > intervention in pursuit of > American interest. People have been able to establish democracy in > Saudi Arabia and other > Arab states following the withdrawal of US forces and the removal of > threat from Israel. > > If the above does happen, the fallout of the transformation may no > doubt be colossal the > world over, but will it be universally disastrous or intrinsically > benign for humanity? > If the American ideals are as good for the rest of the world as they > are for themselves, > it should be latter rather than the former. > > Among other things, Israel will start listening to the UN and the > world opinion. Millions > of Arabs and Jews will live in peace and dignity by compromising on > their respective > claims. The Arabs and Latin Americans will decide to raise the oil > prices by curtailing > production, and other producers will join in. The lot of the poor in > oil-producing > countries will improve, and they will not be forced to cut down > forests to make a living. > Their proud youth will be occupied with nation-building instead of > taking out heat on > others.On the other side, the American economy will get a jolt the > like of which it has > never experienced before. There will be huge job losses, enormous > fall in the family > income, and sharp drop in federal revenues. The American and, indeed, > > world stock markets > will plummet down to rock bottom. But will it be an unmitigated > disaster as we are > conditioned to think of ways to re-adjust economies and re-structure > societies? > > Life will still be possible, if some families have one car, one TV, > one stereo and one PC > instead of two or three of each. The chimneys of some of the > factories manufacturing > luxury goods will go smokeless and there will be fewer cars on the > road, but it will give > an impetus to the development of Renewable Energy, and, thus, Carbon > dioxide emissions > will reduce, saving the world from the disastrous global warming. > > And, if all this happens, one of the parents will stay at home and > the other will have > less time and money to flaunt looking for new partners. The > endangered nuclear family > will, thus, be rescued with reduced divorce rate. The children will > get the much-needed > warmth of parental attention, which nourishes valuable human capital > instead of the > delinquent hordes of drug addicts and criminals roaming the streets > of America now. > > Savings from the reduced demand of drugs and law-enforcement > expenditure will make up for > other losses not counting the benefits of raising happier and more > productive citizens. > The consumer, who is encouraged to purchase more and be wasteful in > order to boost the > economy, will have less to spend and the industry will no doubt > suffer temporarily. But > it will result in conserv- > > ing the natural resources of the world which are depleting at a > dangerous rate to meet > the exploding market demand of luxury goods. Protecting nature will > pay greater dividends > to the Americans and the rest of the world in the longer term as > compared to the > year-ending bottom line of its monstrous corporations. > > The hypothetical scenario may not offer a complete recipe for > success, but hopefully some > food for thought for America which finds virtue in maximization of > wealth and pleasures > within its closed system. It is time America recalled the simple > values and higher > thinking of the Pilgrim Fathers, and considers opting for a paradigm > shift by including > the world in application of its own value system. > > The world has further shrunken from a village to a family, making it > impossible for one > member of the family to prosper at the expense of the other. America > still has the > potential to lead the world on a nobler path with the moral strength > of finding the world > interest in the American interest. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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