Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3006-1003249336-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5807 invoked by uid 510); 16 Oct 2001 16:21:58 -0000 Received: from n2.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.52) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 16:21:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3006-1003249336-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.224] by n2.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2001 16:22:16 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 16 Oct 2001 16:22:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 49157 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 16:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 16 Oct 2001 16:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 16:21:56 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id JAA20511 for iwar@onelist.com; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:21:52 -0700 Message-Id: <200110161621.JAA20511@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Bush.Rethinks.Principles.For.'Different.Kind.Of.War'] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit USA Today October 16, 2001 Bush Rethinks Principles For 'Different Kind Of War' By Judy Keen, USA Today WASHINGTON - During the presidential campaign, George W. Bush was unequivocal: The United States should never deploy troops without a "well-defined" exit strategy. Now Bush has ordered U.S. troops into an open-ended war for which he hasn't defined a conclusion except to say that he wants to "rid the world of evildoers." He warns in almost every speech that Americans must be patient and that their endurance will be tested. Aides say Bush believes that this war may not end for years, perhaps after his tenure in the White House ends in 2005 or 2009. "I don't care how long it takes to rout out terrorism, we're going to do it," the president told employees at the FBI on Sept. 25. In almost every speech he has given since the terrorist attacks, Bush has said this is "a different kind of war." Those words are designed to dampen the expectations of Americans hoping for swift military victories. But they also underscore the fact that the United States is in an unforeseen war, precipitated by unimaginable acts, that's being fought on economic, diplomatic and covert fronts as well as conventional battlefields. As he prepares the public for the nature and length of this conflict, the president is rethinking his views on when to go to war, how to gauge victory and how to deal with the aftermath: * Vietnam taught him that "our nation should be slow to engage troops," Bush wrote in A Charge to Keep, his 1999 autobiography. But a remote civil war hardly compares with terrorist attacks that killed thousands of Americans at home, and Bush decided within hours of the attacks that he would order military retaliation against Osama bin Laden. * During the campaign, Bush said he would never deploy troops without first answering the question, "How do you end?" He says now that the war won't be over even if bin Laden is dead and the ruling Taliban militia is removed from power in Afghanistan, because achieving those goals would not end the threat of terrorism. * In a debate Oct. 3, 2000, with Al Gore, Bush said he would be "very careful about using our troops as nation builders." The president and his advisers still say they won't use the military to install a new government in Afghanistan, but administration officials say military forces from the United States or its partners would have to be used temporarily to shore up new leadership there. "We should not just simply leave after a military objective has been achieved," Bush said at a news conference Thursday. Aides say Bush is discussing how to support a successor to the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, possibly by backing creation of a coalition government. The Cabinet secretaries who are managing the war share the president's new elastic definitions of war and victory. "Forget about 'exit strategies' - we're looking at a sustained engagement that carries no deadlines," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wrote in a Sept. 27 op-ed piece in The New York Times. Secretary of State Colin Powell says victory will be measured in the restoration of "a degree of security" in society and "far less" terrorism. Powell, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Gulf War, seems to be amending the military doctrine that bears his name. The "Powell Doctrine" says the United States should avoid intervening in international conflicts unless three conditions are met: A vital national interest is in jeopardy; there is a clear, achievable goal; and the force used is overwhelming. Some military analysts say Bush must write new tenets for a new kind of war. "The Bush corollary to the Powell Doctrine is, when you've got overriding public support and indeed impatience to do something, then end-game strategy is not as important," says Kurt Campbell of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "This situation is absolutely unique, and it's going to cause Bush and his team to reconsider" the old rules. Administration officials have begun describing a "Bush Doctrine." Presidential counselor Karen Hughes defined it this way: "A country that harbors terrorists will either deliver the terrorists or share in their fate." That suggests that Bush and his advisers believe that this war is an ongoing mission without a definitive ending in sight. "There's a certain impatience with war of the past," Bush said Sept. 19. "People demand a certain clarity of a specific battlefield. But this is a new type of struggle." Rumsfeld says the Cold War is an appropriate comparison. There were no great battles during decades of tensions and standoffs, but victory was won when years of pressure forced communist regimes to collapse from within. "We will know we have won when people are able to go about their business ... and not live in fear," Rumsfeld said. That means success may be intangible and transitory and there may be no triumphant celebrations to mark the war's end. Campbell expects the war to last "through several administrations." He compares the fight against terrorism to drugs' effect on AIDS in the body: "It can be reduced to barely discernible levels," he says, but not eradicated. "We'll never fundamentally know, as part of the national psyche or through evidence, if we've really won," he said. Military analyst Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution, another Washington think tank, agrees. "We never will have that parade, because we'll be jinxing ourselves if we do," he says. Success, O'Hanlon says, is easily described, but it may be impossible to attain: "Prevent future Sept. 11ths: There is no other definition of victory." Many expect fight to last a long time How long do you think the fighting in Afghanistan will last? A few weeks or less -- 10%; Several months -- 34%; A year or two -- 26%; More than two years -- 22%; No opinion -- 8% (Source: USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll of 660 adults Oct. 7. Margin of error: +4 percentage points. ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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