Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3205-1003758082-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23945 invoked by uid 510); 22 Oct 2001 13:40:53 -0000 Received: from n7.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.57) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 13:40:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3205-1003758082-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.221] by n7.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2001 13:41:23 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 22 Oct 2001 13:41:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 50580 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2001 13:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.221 with QMQP; 22 Oct 2001 13:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 13:41:20 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f9MDfbc03424 for iwar@onelist.com; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:41:37 -0700 Message-Id: <200110221341.f9MDfbc03424@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Eavesdropping,.U.S..Allies.See.New.Terror.Attack] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit October 21, 2001 Eavesdropping, U.S. Allies See New Terror Attack By RAYMOND BONNER with JOHN TAGLIABUE LONDON, Oct. 20 - More than a month after the September terror attacks, the United States and its close allies are still intercepting communications among Osama bin Laden's associates and are convinced more attacks are coming, intelligence officials in several countries say. While American officials have been warning of another attack, the foreign intelligence officials stress that they base their analysis and conclusions on what their own agencies have gathered and not on intelligence they are getting from the United States. In interviews over the past week, intelligence officials in six countries in the Middle East and Europe said they were unsure where to expect the attacks or whether they would be with explosives or with chemical or biological weapons. But they said their intercepts and other tools convinced them that a second and possibly a third wave of attacks were planned. There is no evidence yet linking the recent anthrax-tainted letters to Osama bin Laden, said intelligence officials from two European countries that have been working closely with the United States. But if the letters are Mr. bin Laden's work, they are likely only the beginning of more attacks, they said. Still, arrests in the United States and the disruption of suspected terrorist plots abroad may have bought some time in the battle against terrorism, American officials said. Since Sept. 11, foreign intelligence services have arrested and interrogated hundreds of suspects, and they claim to have disrupted at least four separate plans to attack American and allied institutions in France, Belgium, Jordan and Turkey. Interpreting intercepted communications, which are cryptic and in code, and sorting through all the rumors present a formidable challenge. One intercept before the Sept. 11 attack was, according to two senior intelligence officials, the first early warning of the assault and it set off a scramble by American and other intelligence agencies. In that call, Mr. bin Laden advised his wife in Syria to come back to Afghanistan. That message, which was intercepted by the intelligence services of more than one country, was passed on to the United States, officials from three countries said. "The question mark was when and where, mainly where because we assumed it would be soon," a senior intelligence official said. The United States and allied governments began looking hard at possible targets outside the United States, in the Persian Gulf, in Europe "and in other corners of the world," he said. Now the United States and its allies find themselves in a similar quandary. They know something is coming but not when or where. In the past, officials noted, there had been many months between attacks - two years between the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa and the attack on the destroyer Cole last year in Yemen, for example. But this time the follow-up attacks are likely to come much sooner because Mr. bin Laden had probably set them in motion before Sept. 11, the officials add. They said that they were confident Mr. bin Laden had anticipated the United States would respond with a war, and that he was ready with counterattacks. Intelligence agencies in Europe and the Middle East say they continue to monitor some communications between bin Laden associates despite the fact that they are aware of the intercepts. On the day of the attack, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, revealed that conversations among bin Laden followers had been intercepted. He was relying on evidence he had received at a White House briefing, which in turn was passing on what it had learned from the German government. The divergent views on the nature of future attacks can be explained in part because there is no central repository of intelligence information from which all countries can draw. Most countries pass what they get to Washington, but American intelligence agencies do not reciprocate as fully. Allied governments share their intelligence with each other even less. An Israeli expert said that based on the intelligence he had seen, both before and since Sept. 11, he expected that Mr. bin Laden would now turn to chemical and biological weapons, and that American interests in Western Europe were the likely targets. "We have some basic signs that the people of bin Laden have been interested in chemical and biological materials," he said. He said investigators were looking into reports that a couple of the hijackers involved in the Sept. 11 attacks had sought training in Europe to fly crop-dusting planes. The officials agreed that further attacks against the United States had been planned by Mr. bin Laden before Sept. 11. "The aims and behavior of Osama bin Laden, and the expectations of his followers and supporters, is that he will answer the attacks on Afghanistan and the Taliban," said one European official. The roundups of terror suspects in the United States and Europe apparently have not completely interrupted Mr. bin Laden's ability to launch further attacks against the United States. "When Osama bin Laden launches the next attack, we'll find the next surprise," the Israeli expert said. Source: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/21/international/21INTE.html?todaysheadli">http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/21/international/21INTE.html?todaysheadli> nes=&pagewanted=print ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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