Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3376-1003948074-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16976 invoked by uid 510); 24 Oct 2001 18:27:21 -0000 Received: from n3.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.53) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 24 Oct 2001 18:27:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3376-1003948074-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by n3.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2001 18:27:54 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 24 Oct 2001 18:27:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 32120 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2001 18:27:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 24 Oct 2001 18:27:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.82) by mta3 with SMTP; 24 Oct 2001 18:27:52 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-2.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id LAA14023 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id LAA06971 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011024111944.00c3e8a0@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200110240235.f9O2Zkj31279@red.all.net> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:30:20 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] How big is Al Queda? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 07:35 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote: >Guestimates... > >Total trained in their camps over the last so many years is about 20,000 >Assume distributed as leaders of cells, means that the US probably has >from a few hundred to a thousand cells. Proportional in EU other nations. To borrow the title of the seminal book on fractals: "How Long is the Coast of Britain?" It would be helpful to attempt to define the parameters of "al Qaeda" for such purposes. An analogy: How big is Harvard? Is it the number of students that have received diplomas? Is it the number of graduates who have entered the teaching profession? Or is it the number of dedicated trainers and logistics personnel who support them? To the case in point: Are all/most of the "al Qaeda graduates" intended or expected to be cell-leaders? Or, simply proficient in certain tactics when under the guidance of a less numerous cadre of cell leaders? ____tony____ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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