Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3478-1004119273-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5584 invoked by uid 510); 26 Oct 2001 18:00:37 -0000 Received: from n16.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.66) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 18:00:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3478-1004119273-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.53] by n16.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2001 18:01:06 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 26 Oct 2001 18:01:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 27332 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 18:01:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Oct 2001 18:01:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 18:01:12 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f9QI1KI01937 for iwar@onelist.com; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:01:20 -0700 Message-Id: <200110261801.f9QI1KI01937@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:YIHAT.incurs.hacker.community's.wrath] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YIHAT incurs hacker community's wrath By James Middleton, vnunet.com, 10/25/2001 http://www.vnunet.com/News/1126392 Vigilante hacker group YIHAT, and its founder Kim 'Kimble' Schmitz, are fast becoming a laughing stock on the hacker scene and seem to be making enemies all over the underground. In the last week YIHAT has been forced to take its official website down. Pakistani hacker group GForce last week threatened YIHAT after it emerged that the vigilante group was investigating them. Days later the YIHAT website, Kill.net, was hit by a denial of service attack and has since been closed. But the latest attack has come from security site Attrition after YIHAT accused it of hosting a terrorist website on its server. In emails released earlier this week by Attrition administrator Jericho, YIHAT hacker Alistair Rooney mistakenly assumed that GForce was launching its attacks through Attrition.org. This was because the site, which hosts a defacement mirror, is publishing defacements attributed to GForce. An email from Schmitz himself informed Jericho that Attrition would be "f***ed soon" and that he had "a surprise" for the site because of its mistaken association with GForce. This seemed to spark a sense of unease even within the ranks of YIHAT. Rooney himself admitted he was "a bit surprised" at Schmitz's retort. Jericho said: "Today, one of the YIHAT monkeys contacted me and told me to 'keep an eye on' a defacing group known as Gforce Pakistan. His reasoning for this comment was the claim that Attrition hosted a GForce Pakistan website. Apparently YIHAT and this monkey did not bother to read anything on Attrition or take a moment to understand what the Attrition mirror was all about." Schmitz has also made an enemy out of the mysterious hacker Fluffi Bunni, who has defaced the YIHAT website twice over the past weeks. Schmitz has since put a $10,000 bounty on Fluffi Bunni's head, according to YIHAT members active on the 'official' YIHAT IRC (internet relay chat) channel. But even YIHAT's IRC channel has been invaded by other hackers quick to disparage YIHAT and Schmitz's already tarnished name. "The elite will be on their ass soon," said one user. Others echoed the common response that "YIHAT is finished". YIHAT's reputation got off to a bad start after a number of hackers went on a defacement spree under the group's name. This most noticeably shook the security underground this morning, when the not for profit security news site Security News Portal was defaced by someone claiming to be Kimble from YIHAT. Unfortunately, the site administrator has now pulled the plug on the site, denying the security industry another useful resource. But what seems to have given the security industry, both above and below ground, most ammunition is what has been called Schmitz's constant "spin doctoring" of the situation. When Kill.net was taken offline Schmitz said that everything was going to plan. "Phase one" of their mission was done, and YIHAT was "moving underground". "As you can see, we're not dealing with a lot of brain-thrust here," said Jericho. "If the best they can do is this, the terrorists' online activity has little to worry about unfortunately." Schmitz has since been indicted into the Attrition Hall of Shame, the charlatan's gallery, at the top of the list. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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