RE: [iwar] Did this list lose its focus?

From: Mohammad Ozair Rasheed (ozair_rasheed@geocities.com)
Date: 2001-12-16 23:27:21


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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:27:21 +0500
Subject: RE: [iwar] Did this list lose its focus?
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Fred,

I somewhat agree with Rob, and want to say that there is more to it than
he says, this list has indeed lost its focus. The material presented
here has become a one sided rather than the two sided that was presented
earlier. Am wondering what prompted this quantum change in focus.

Also the interesting intellectual thrusts and parries have become more
of a beat-the-other-guy competitions.

Been thinking about unsubscribing.

Regards,
Ozair

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Mohammad Ozair Rasheed
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Crescent Technologies
Pakistan
+92-300-8541630


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:37 AM
To: iwar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [iwar] Did this list lose its focus?


Per the message sent by Rob Rosenberger:

> Fred, do you have a current charter for [iwar]?

	"This list is for the serious information warrior, those who
want to
	keep abreast of the rise of information warfare, and the casual
observer
	who wants to understand the issues."

> When I subscribed, I
> thought we'd all participate in a roundtable discussion of information

> warfare & whatnot.  I miss those heady days when MAGLAN offered 
> interesting commentary and we all got to chime in with deep thinking.

> Now I see little more than a high-traffic newsclipping service.

The way to alter the behavior of the forum is to start discussiong the
issues that arise.  I, for one, am interested in all views.

I have come to believe that high quality information warfare involves
deep thought and understanding of behaviors.  I have spent some
considerable time lately looking at these issues and applying them in a
practical sense - hence some of the recent papers at all.net.  I would
love to hear other views and see information on other researchers'
results.

> No offense, but I didn't come here to read the funny pages.  I came 
> here to debate.  Perhaps you could create an [iwar-news] and let us 
> return to the original charter?

It's easy to return.  Start debating.

FC

> Rob


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