Re: Fwd: [iwar] [fc:Arms.Seizure.Backfires,.Wounds.Israel]

From: Lewis Z. Koch (lzkoch@attbi.com)
Date: 2002-01-09 07:35:07


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From: "Lewis Z. Koch" <lzkoch@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [iwar] [fc:Arms.Seizure.Backfires,.Wounds.Israel]
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Fred:

I have to respectfully disagree with you here.

I think most, if not all of the journalists I've known these 40 years 
would, if confronted with the
dispatch, cold, without any citation, dismiss it. "...of course it could be 
true..."
you write. Of course ANYTHING can be true, but those stories without any 
semblance of real world
citation can claim that little seen white elephants are running Tibet. Just 
because YOU haven't
seen it doesn't make it impossible.

I have no problem with you providing the list with the obvious self-serving 
thumbsuckers
(hell, most thumbsuckers serve the purposes of person indulging.) But I do 
not think
it provides any insight into the political/psychological mind set when the 
thumbsucker
is just plopped down, as just another news story.

I am going to "parse" several of the unsubstantiated claims in the report 
to show you what I mean:

"Both the Palestinian Authority and Tehran have denied any connection to 
the Karine A, and a report in
a prestigious British shipping journal contradicts Israeli allegations 
regarding
the vessel's ownership."

What we see above is the denial which is then tied to a "prestigious 
British shipping
journal" which also "contradicts Israeli allegations regarding the vessel's 
ownership."

OK -- what journal? -- who was the author of the article? --and what do we know
or not know about his previous journalistic efforts?

" Rather than validating Israel's claims of Palestinian duplicity, the 
incident has damaged Israel's credibility."

According to who? This is a flat out claim, with no substantiation.

" Audiences in the West, especially in Europe and the United States, are 
now more
likely to question other Israeli charges against the Palestinians."

Audiences? This is like "informed observers" which is a substitute for "a 
little voice
inside my head." What other "charges?"  Perhaps there will be the questioning
if Israeli agents aren't pretending to be terrorists and blowing up Jews in 
terrorist bombing.

"American and European distrust of Israeli allegations will give the 
Palestinian
Authority more room to maneuver in the short term."

According to whom?

"PA leader Yasser Arafat can continue to argue that he wants peace and to cite
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's aggressive policies as the root cause 
of continuing
violence in the Middle East."

Here we are with the delicious "root cause." The perfect excuse to avoid 
confronting
the reality -- which, at best, is mixed.

"Israel had hoped to achieve a double whammy with the ship seizure. First, 
it sought
to throw a wrench into peace talks. It aimed to ensure that the United 
States would
not push Israel into negotiating a truce at a time when it has the upper 
hand with
Arafat. Implicating Iran would advance yet another goal -- containment of 
the emerging
Persian Gulf power. Immediately after announcing the capture of the vessel, 
Israel
called on the European Union to declare Iran a state sponsor of terrorism. 
The United
States already does so."

Of course! As if Israel is the only government that seeks to take advantage 
of a situation
which places an enemy at a distinct advantage,

"But the seizure of the Karine A instead has mushroomed into a full-scale 
embarrassment
for Israel."

Full-scale? Irrefutable? Like an FBI agent being caught as a Soviet/Russian 
spy."

"Several details undermine claims that the Palestinian Authority was directly
involved in the purchase and smuggling of weapons. For example, the timing 
of the
seizure provided a convenient means of thwarting progress toward peace 
talks during
a four-day visit by U.S. envoy Anthony Zinni."

Several details?  We are provided with only one, "for example, the timing..."
(We never do find out how did the Israeli's management to time the ships
sailing to Zinni's visit. Did the Israeli's control the timing of the visit?)
One example does not make "several."

After more nonsense the article concludes:

"Israel's credibility has taken a blow, giving the Palestinians leverage in 
the short term."
What is the evidence that anyone in the non-Muslin world is taking this 
seriously.
Yes, the likelihood is that a significant portion of the extremist Muslin 
world will
buy into this -- but it most certainly does not give the Palestinians any 
"leverage"
except in their dreams and fantasies.

"Now the Palestinian Authority can ask Europe and the United States to 
pressure Sharon to come to the
negotiating table. More important, few will take future Israeli claims 
about Palestinian."

Few? For example, what nations have reversed their Israel-Palestine policy as
a result of the arms shipment? What nations have even indicated they are 
considering
revising their policy?

The piece came to me (and the list) without additional citation, but as you 
sat, with
a route apparently involving "STRATFOR. I think it likely that it came from 
one of the
Palestinian news agencies - but I don't know."

Here again, I'd like some more insight. How sound is STRATFOR intelligence 
briefings?
For example, iDefense was often cited as a source about hackers. All their 
information
was either false, exaggerated, or filed as an "exclusive" when it had 
already appeared
in other places. Not unexpectedly, iDense went bankrupt. STRATFOR claims
to be "the (sic) leading provider of global intelligence." Really? Says 
who.  They
mention Time magazine and "Brill's Content" as among those who extol their
excellence." Time is notorious for not being able to tell a straight story and
Brill's Content went out of business, they were so bad. STRATFOR can make
it claims -- but I can tell you it's no RAND (even though the uses all caps for
their name.) A review of their product places them more and more in the
iDefense category as compared to RAND (or the old Hudson Institute when Herman
ran it. STRATFOR.

"A variety of journalists and editors also serve on the [STRATFOR]staff," its
web site states. Which ones? It doesn't say. The Sierra Times.com calls itself
"an Internet publications for real Americans." Well, I don't need the 
Texas-based Sierra Times
to define for me what is or is not a real American." This is one of the places,
according to a Google search, that runs STRATFOR's material.

I really like being on your list. I just want to urge more sourcing.

Thanks...all my best

Lew








At 05:52 AM 1/9/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>It came to me without additional citation, but with a route apparently
>involving STRATFOR.  I think it likely that it came from one of the
>Palestinian news agencies - but I don't know.
>
>I did think it was an interesting example of attempts at perception
>management - or of course it could be true...
>
>FC
>
>Per the message sent by Lewis Z. Koch:
> > Fred:
>
> > Could you provide the source for this report...it starts out
> > without any "byline."
>
>...
> > >Arms Seizure Backfires, Wounds Israel
> > >2120 GMT, 020108
>
>--This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve--
>Fred Cohen              Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171
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