Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4353-1011627537-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31413 invoked by uid 510); 21 Jan 2002 15:38:57 -0000 Received: from n27.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.77) by all.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 15:38:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4353-1011627537-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.188] by n27.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2002 15:38:58 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 21 Jan 2002 15:38:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 35565 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 15:38:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2002 15:38:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (12.232.72.98) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 15:38:57 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g0LFdIu21097 for iwar@onelist.com; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:39:18 -0800 Message-Id: <200201211539.g0LFdIu21097@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:39:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [iwar] [fc:China.Says.Bugs.Found.On.President's.Plane] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit China Says Bugs Found On President's Plane Ref: Financial Times, 15:27, 20 Jan 2002 <a href="http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3Z88KHMWC&live=true&tagid=IXLB0PYY8CC">http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3Z88KHMWC&live=true&tagid=IXLB0PYY8CC> by James Kynge in Beijing, Edward Cheng in New York and Chris Bowe in Chicago More than 20 bugging devices have been discovered by Chinese intelligence officers in a Boeing 767 delivered from the US and due to serve as the official aircraft of Jiang Zemin, China's president, according to Chinese officials. Dee Howard Aircraft Maintenance, who carried out maintance on the aircraft, said on Saturday that it had "met all security provisions, we were totally unaware of all of this". (For more on Dee Howard's rebuttal, see link to story below). The discovery comes ahead of the planned summit between President George W. Bush and Mr Jiang in Beijing late next month. It was not clear when the aircraft was fitted with the listening devices. One was found in a lavatory and another in the headboard of the presidential bed. Mr Jiang was said to be furious. The bugs, hidden in upholstery, were detected after the aircraft emitted a strange static whine during test flights in China in September, shortly after it was delivered. They were said to be tiny and operated by satellite. Military experts in Beijing said the devices were far more sophisticated than those available in retail outlets. It was unclear on Friday night if the discovery would derail the summit, which Mr Jiang regards as a valuable opportunity to engage Mr Bush on a variety of geopolitical issues. "Everyone knows that the Americans spy on us," said one Chinese official. "But I am not sure if the government will want to use this incident against the US because relations are supposed to be getting better these days." There was no evidence on Friday night of US government involvement in the bugging. The twin-jet aircraft was made at Boeing's factory in Seattle. The aircraft maker, now headquartered in Chicago, said on Friday night that in June 2000 its commercial division had sold a 767 aircraft to Delta Air Lines, the US carrier, which then resold the jetliner to China. "That's the only plane we know of that was sold for government use," said Larry McCracken, vice president of public relations at Boeing. He added that after buying the 767 from Delta, China sent it to a company in the US to undergo a yearlong conversion from a commercial jetliner into an executive airplane. The aircraft was fitted with VIP equipment and upholstery and was under surveillance by Chinese officials throughout. It is understood that the aircraft was empty of furnishings when it left Boeing. The aircraft was flown to China with a stopover in Hawaii in August. Boeing, which won a $2bn order for new aircraft during Mr Bush's last visit to China in October, said its China representative and commercial division officials had begun to hear of rumours in the last six months that listening devices might have been placed in a Chinese jetliner. Elizabeth Verdier, a spokeswoman for Boeing's commercial unit in Seattle, said the company was trying to explore the root and nature of the rumours and "piece together" what might have happened to the airplane. The contractor that fitted the Boeing 767 with the executive equipment and upholstery declined to comment except to say that "any comment will have to wait until Monday." Chinese security forces have launched an investigation into possible negligence within China United Airlines, the air-force-run airline that ordered the aircraft, and the state-owned China Aviation Supplies Export and Import Corp (CASC), which was responsible for importing it. Some 20 air force officers had been held for questioning and faced possible arrest, Chinese military officials said. Two CASC officials have also been taken into custody and are being questioned about how the aircraft could have been fitted with so many listening devices despite Chinese surveillance of it in the US. The US and China clashed over the issue of espionage in April last year when a Chinese F-8 fighter jet and a US EP-3 spy aircraft collided over the South China sea, resulting in the death of the Chinese pilot and the grounding of the US aircraft and its crew on a southern Chinese island. Beijing said then that the activities of US spy aircraft off of China's coastline "constituted a threat to national security and peaceful order and [are a] provocation to Chinese national sovereignty." The incident convinced many Chinese that the US viewed China as a possible future enemy. Industry analysts said that, although China had often allowed political issues to influence its aircraft procurement decisions, in this case Boeing might escape blame because it had left the aircraft unfurnished. Additional reporting by Sheila McNulty ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! 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