Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4917-1025185017-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17522 invoked by uid 510); 27 Jun 2002 13:36:48 -0000 Received: from n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.85) by all.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2002 13:36:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4917-1025185017-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2002 13:36:58 -0000 X-Sender: junkmail@barnowl.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_3); 27 Jun 2002 13:36:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 81930 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2002 13:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Jun 2002 13:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server-16.tower-15.messagelabs.com) (63.210.62.243) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2002 13:36:57 -0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8789 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2002 13:36:27 -0000 Received: from nospam.barnowl.com (HELO barnowl.com) (206.72.12.109) by server-16.tower-15.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2002 13:36:27 -0000 Received: from mmedia01 (unknown [10.1.1.132]) by barnowl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BE83AED68 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:31:26 -0500 (CDT) To: <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <DCEJIBODBPNAOCPAPLHGCEBIFEAA.junkmail@barnowl.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020626212959.00ae5d00@127.0.0.1> From: "Rob Rosenberger" <junkmail@barnowl.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: barnowlcom Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:36:44 -0500 Subject: RE: [iwar] al qaeda and SCADA Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,RISK_FREE,FREE_MONEY version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: First: anytime you see the words "SCADA" and "terrorist" in a news story -- which seems pretty common in [iwar] -- you should rush over to http://Vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=451&page=4 for a refresher course. Second: we've learned THE HARD WAY, EVERY TIME, about the dangers of technology. Seriously -- why does anyone actually think we'll learn the easy way this time around? We built boats. People died to teach us about the need for good boat-making. Even with the best materials, though, you still occasionally run into an iceberg. People died to teach us about the need for lifeboats. We long ago figured out how to use boats as weapons and our enemies sometimes explode 20x40' holes in our boats. We built trains. People died to teach us about the need for good wheel-making. Even with the best materials, though, you still occasionally leap off the tracks. People died to teach us about the need for safe interiors. We long ago figured out how to use trains as weapons and the North won against the South in no small part because the rails ran smoothly. We built cars. People died to teach us about the need for seatbelts. Even with straps, though, you still occasionally impale yourself on the steering column or bash your head on an unforgiving upper doorframe. People died or went into comas to teach us about the need for front- and side-deploy airbags. We long ago figured out how to use cars as weapons and we now even drive around in Jeeps for the fun of it. We built airplanes. People died to teach us about the need for air safety. Then we shipped a gazillion planes to WWII. Airmen died to teach us about all sorts of things about safe airplanes. We long ago figured out how to use airplanes as weapons, and then 19 guys reminded us about using airplanes as weapons. (Can you say "kamikaze"?) ...Okay, now we build computers. Nothing bad happened yet, but that's just because computers don't really do critical things. (Like fly a plane. Or steer a boat. Or drive a car.) Yeah, a secretary's PC at a nuclear power plant got infected with a Word macro virus, but technicians scrammed the rods before the secretary's PC could do any real damage. A lot of experts want Congress to give them tax dollars so people never die at the hands of the Melissa virus... Mark my words: we'll overcome Darwinism this time around. We've got technology on our side! :^| Rob ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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