Return-Path: <sentto-279987-5277-1030631050-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24497 invoked by uid 510); 29 Aug 2002 14:22:19 -0000 Received: from n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.107) by all.net with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 14:22:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-5277-1030631050-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2002 14:24:10 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 29 Aug 2002 14:24:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15954 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 14:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Aug 2002 14:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (12.232.72.152) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 14:24:09 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g7TEOoH22092 for iwar@onelist.com; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:24:50 -0700 Message-Id: <200208291424.g7TEOoH22092@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [iwar] [fc:Lack.of.E-Mail.Trail.Irks.Moussaoui.Judge] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lack of E-Mail Trail Irks Moussaoui Judge FBI Ordered to Hand Over Internet File By Tom Jackman Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, August 29, 2002; Page A14 The judge presiding over the case of alleged Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui ordered the FBI yesterday to explain why there are no records of Moussaoui's Internet activities before his arrest, expressing near disbelief that investigators have not recovered Moussaoui's e-mail trail. In sealed motions filed this month, Moussaoui, acting as his own attorney, demanded copies of e-mail he sent from various locations before his arrest. He was arrested in August 2001 on immigration charges after arousing suspicion while taking flight lessons in Minnesota. He was in jail Sept. 11, but he has been charged as a conspirator in the terrorist hijackings. Moussaoui asked that the government hand over the file on his e-mail address at Hotmail.com, a widely used free service owned by Microsoft. Prosecutors responded the next day that they had sought Moussaoui's Hotmail records for the address "xdesertman" but were told that Hotmail did not have any records. In another sealed motion, Moussaoui expressed doubt that the government had no data for him to examine. Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkema joined in that skepticism. "Given the intense law enforcement attention focused on Mr. Moussaoui after September 11, 2001," Brinkema wrote, "we do not understand why an immediate and thorough investigation into the defendant's e-mail and computer activities did not lead investigators to the <a href="mailto:xdesertman@hotmail.com?Subject=Re:%20(ai)%20Lack%20of%20E-Mail%20Trail%20Irks%20Moussaoui%20Judge;%20FBI%20Ordered%20to%20Hand Over%20Internet%20File%2526In-Reply-To=%2526lt;B99396C8.3C9BE%25rfo rno@infowarrior.org">xdesertman@hotmail.com</a> account, if it existed." The judge went further. In addition to granting Moussaoui's request for a forensic computer expert to seek the information independently, Brinkema ordered prosecutors to supply an affidavit from the FBI "explaining how and when, if at all, the FBI examined the contents of the defendant's computers," as well as other computers Moussaoui is seeking. "The affidavit must indicate why investigators were unable to retrieve any information from MSN Hotmail and/or any other computers or accounts searched," Brinkema said, "and must make clear whether any efforts were made to obtain forensic expert services of any other government agencies such as the CIA or NSA to assist in retrieving the information." Spokesmen for the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office in Alexandria declined to comment on the order yesterday. Moussaoui's laptop computer has been the focus of national controversy. When Moussaoui was arrested, FBI agents in Minnesota sought a search warrant to examine the laptop, but officials in Washington denied the request. When the FBI received intelligence information from France, where Moussaoui lived, they again sought permission for a warrant, and again were rebuffed, according to Special Agent Colleen Rowley of the Minneapolis field office. The government said in court papers that agents tried to access Moussaoui's e-mail accounts but could not. A certificate filed by a Hotmail official said the company had no records of Moussaoui's <a href="mailto:xdesertman@hotmail.com?Subject=Re:%20(ai)%20Lack%20of%20E-Mail%20Trail%20Irks%20Moussaoui%20Judge;%20FBI%20Ordered%20to%20Hand Over%20Internet%20File%2526In-Reply-To=%2526lt;B99396C8.3C9BE%25r forno@infowarrior.org">xdesertman@hotmail.com</a> account. Hotmail's system is set up to delete all information in an account that has been dormant for 30 days, and the user name is put up for reuse after 90 days of inactivity. The certificate does not say if investigators asked for the information within 30 or 90 days of the last time Moussaoui used the account. Moussaoui also apparently sought e-mail he sent from a Kinko's store in Eagan, Minn., from an acquaintance's computer, and from the University of Oklahoma in Norman, Okla. Moussaoui took flight lessons in Norman before moving to Minnesota. In a separate move, Brinkema also ordered the federal marshal's service, the courts and the Alexandria jail to arrange for Moussaoui to have access to a secure Web site with a private network connection so that he may view the evidence and indexes compiled by standby lawyers assigned to the case. The order came in response to Moussaoui's complaints that the evidence provided by prosecutors is vast and unmanageable. The judge ordered that Moussaoui not have access to the computer until Brinkema is assured in writing that it is not connected to the Internet and does not provide Moussaoui access to anyone else. © 2002 The Washington Post Company ------------------------ Yahoo! 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