[iwar] Historical posting


From: Fred Cohen
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Date: Mon, Jan 1, 1999
From: Fred Cohen 
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Subject: [iwar] Historical posting

          

 Yasser,
thank you for pointing out the site. I have kept track of this site for
about a year and have had lot of mails regarding this site. However let me
point out to you that one of the ruses used by the site owner is to send out
routine e-mails to unsuspecting people telling them of this site and that
they should voice their opnions against it. These people visit the site and
are inflamed by it and send out this site link to many others as well. This
keeps the hit counter for that web page ticking thereby making this site a
success. We have to realize that a Web page is useless if no one visits it.
For all anybody cares, there may be all sorts of dead web pages lying about
in the WWW with nobody visiting that site. Now, if we were to ignore such
mails and keep away from such sites, they would automatically fade away,
when the site owner realizes that there is no way he can spread his poison.

Glenn,
I take it that you are pretty liberal in your "choice of business" and
seldom care if someone was selling your soul on the street. If you had put
it by saying that it would be futile to e-mail the site admins then I may
have accepted it, however your current statement carries too grey a shade of
leberallism. You May be right about this futility of e-mailing sysadmins,
however it would be worthwhile to compile a list of all such flame spreading
sites and to avoid them in future, for not only you are right, there are
several points of view from people of different background and each must be
weighed accordingly. Also think about what I have said about the subtle way
of spreading this site.

One more thing, some one on this list suggested that it is lawful to abuse
relegion in US. Well I am asking that person as to whether he could take an
insult to his relegion without arousing some antagonistic feelings. It is
very easy to say but very hard to do. One of my friends in US made loud
claims but when it came to him. He was not able to stand up to his claims.
Besides, try as hard no one can disassociate relegion from sentiments for
relegion (any kind) has been there for centuries and has become an integral
part of human nature.

Regards,
Ozair

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Williamson [mailto:grwilliamson@h...]
Sent: Friday, 04 February, 2000 4:32 AM
To: iwar@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [iwar] Help needed


From: "Glenn Williamson" grwilliamson@h...

Ok my 2 cents,

 Some of the lists this went to were not meant for this type of news, I'm
not knocking the subject but there is a place for it, as members of
iwar@onelist.com I really didn't think this is the place to put this e-mail.
Fred I may be wrong but my interest in the list is what is usually found
here posted by yourself and others.

 Ok that was my 2 cents, I'm sorry if someone takes offence, Yasir Mehmood
but there are all sorts of sites on the internet that spread false
information, we can't simply send e-mail to the sys-admins that take care of
them as that is their way of doing business.

Glenn

Original Message -----
From: "Yasir Mehmood" groovy98@p...
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Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:37 AM
Subject: [iwar] Help needed


> From: "Yasir Mehmood" groovy98@p...
>
> Hi everyone,
> There is a website hosted by flex.com.the site's address is:
> http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/
> http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/>
> I know that the net is a place where everyone has freedom of speech and
everyone can air his opinions freely but no one has the right to make fun of
a religion. The contents of the following web site are higly insulting about
our Prophet(PBUH),Quran and overall about our Religion. All the content is
false
> and made up by a very sick person.Please help me have this web site taken
down. Let us try our best to stop this kind of information being spread
around. One possible way of doing this is by sending a mail to the system
administrator. We should send a strong protesting mails to the
> webmaster@f... to stop this. I know there was one site on AOL like
this and people reacted on that by sending emails to AOL and they banned
that site on  AOL. We must try to have this site taken down somehow or the
other. Please help.
>
> Yasir Mehmood
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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