[iwar] Historical posting


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Date: Mon, Jan 1, 1999
From: Fred Cohen 
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Subject: [iwar] Historical posting

          

 	As I am likely the one to whom you refer below, "that is is lawful
to abuse relegion (sic) in US" -- I respond that yes, I walk the walk.
Search on the 'net for "mormon" and you may find a good many sites which are
"con."  Ignore them - avoid them when found - and get on with discussions
concerning infowar -- which, after all, *is* the purpose of this list.

	Do you have something of interest concerning information warfare/
information operations?

	wilt

> ----------
> From: 	Ozair[SMTP:ozair_rasheed@g...]
> Reply To: 	iwar@onelist.com
> Sent: 	Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:57 PM
> To: 	iwar@onelist.com
> Subject: 	RE: [iwar] Help needed
> Importance: 	High
> 
> From: "Ozair" ozair_rasheed@g...
> 
> Yasser,
> thank you for pointing out the site. I have kept track of this site for
> about a year and have had lot of mails regarding this site. However let me
> point out to you that one of the ruses used by the site owner is to send
> out
> routine e-mails to unsuspecting people telling them of this site and that
> they should voice their opnions against it. These people visit the site
> and
> are inflamed by it and send out this site link to many others as well.
> This
> keeps the hit counter for that web page ticking thereby making this site a
> success. We have to realize that a Web page is useless if no one visits
> it.
> For all anybody cares, there may be all sorts of dead web pages lying
> about
> in the WWW with nobody visiting that site. Now, if we were to ignore such
> mails and keep away from such sites, they would automatically fade away,
> when the site owner realizes that there is no way he can spread his
> poison.
> 
> Glenn,
> I take it that you are pretty liberal in your "choice of business" and
> seldom care if someone was selling your soul on the street. If you had put
> it by saying that it would be futile to e-mail the site admins then I may
> have accepted it, however your current statement carries too grey a shade
> of
> leberallism. You May be right about this futility of e-mailing sysadmins,
> however it would be worthwhile to compile a list of all such flame
> spreading
> sites and to avoid them in future, for not only you are right, there are
> several points of view from people of different background and each must
> be
> weighed accordingly. Also think about what I have said about the subtle
> way
> of spreading this site.
> 
> One more thing, some one on this list suggested that it is lawful to abuse
> relegion in US. Well I am asking that person as to whether he could take
> an
> insult to his relegion without arousing some antagonistic feelings. It is
> very easy to say but very hard to do. One of my friends in US made loud
> claims but when it came to him. He was not able to stand up to his claims.
> Besides, try as hard no one can disassociate relegion from sentiments for
> relegion (any kind) has been there for centuries and has become an
> integral
> part of human nature.
> 
> Regards,
> Ozair
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Williamson [mailto:grwilliamson@h...]
> Sent: Friday, 04 February, 2000 4:32 AM
> To: iwar@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [iwar] Help needed
> 
> 
> From: "Glenn Williamson" grwilliamson@h...
> 
> Ok my 2 cents,
> 
>  Some of the lists this went to were not meant for this type of news, I'm
> not knocking the subject but there is a place for it, as members of
> iwar@onelist.com I really didn't think this is the place to put this
> e-mail.
> Fred I may be wrong but my interest in the list is what is usually found
> here posted by yourself and others.
> 
>  Ok that was my 2 cents, I'm sorry if someone takes offence, Yasir Mehmood
> but there are all sorts of sites on the internet that spread false
> information, we can't simply send e-mail to the sys-admins that take care
> of
> them as that is their way of doing business.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> Original Message -----
> From: "Yasir Mehmood" groovy98@p...
> To: iwar@onelist.com; antionline@onelist.com;
> wineditor@h...; cmeinel@t...;
> happyhacker@a...; keydet89@y...
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:37 AM
> Subject: [iwar] Help needed
> 
> 
> > From: "Yasir Mehmood" groovy98@p...
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> > There is a website hosted by flex.com.the site's address is:
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/
> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/>
> > I know that the net is a place where everyone has freedom of speech and
> everyone can air his opinions freely but no one has the right to make fun
> of
> a religion. The contents of the following web site are higly insulting
> about
> our Prophet(PBUH),Quran and overall about our Religion. All the content is
> false
> > and made up by a very sick person.Please help me have this web site
> taken
> down. Let us try our best to stop this kind of information being spread
> around. One possible way of doing this is by sending a mail to the system
> administrator. We should send a strong protesting mails to the
> > webmaster@f... to stop this. I know there was one site on AOL like
> this and people reacted on that by sending emails to AOL and they banned
> that site on  AOL. We must try to have this site taken down somehow or the
> other. Please help.
> >
> > Yasir Mehmood
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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