Re: [iwar] Difference between IW and RA and Comp Sec etc

From: Fred Cohen (fc@all.net)
Date: 2001-04-10 18:20:13


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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [iwar] Difference between IW and RA and Comp Sec etc
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Per the message sent by Tony Bartoletti:

> At 03:56 PM 4/10/01 -0700, you wrote:

> > > How about "Computer Security involves local/defensive measures taken to
> > > address the safety of your information processing."
> >
> >Wrong words.  Try proteciton - not security.

> Perhaps you are really saying that computer security is the reasonable 
> assurance that your info-systems are "safe", derived from an ensemble of 
> measures that might range from "protections" all the way through the threat 
> of massive physical retaliation.

No.  I am saying that the term 'security' means the feeling of safety.
The word 'protection' means keeping from harm.
They are very different things.

> I am hoping to define "computer security" (InfoSec*) a bit more tightly.

	Information security - feeling safe about information.

> What range of "protections" is limited to "computer" protections?

	Computer protections - all measures that can be used to keep
	computers (not people) from harm.

> What elements of computer security (InfoSec*) lie beyond mere protections?

		Computer Security != InfoSec
because:	Computer != Information

> *NOTE:  I know that "InfoSec" can involve being careful to whom you talk 
> while on foreign travel, etc.  But in the context of "Symbol Warfare", I am 
> using InfoSec in the signal-processing sense.  Is this wrong?

Not 'right' and 'wrong' - only my view and yours.

FC
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