Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1230-989538786-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 10 May 2001 16:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8758 invoked by uid 510); 10 May 2001 22:54:34 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 10 May 2001 22:54:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1230-989538786-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2001 23:53:06 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 10 May 2001 23:53:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 45899 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 23:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 May 2001 23:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.82) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 May 2001 23:52:50 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-2.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA25406 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id QAA23289 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010510164857.00b04d70@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200105102052.NAA13013@all.net> References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0105101002490.882-100000@kenny> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:58:19 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] when back alley fights really hurt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Regarding (ostensibly) independent Chinese hacks against the US: Fred wrote: >If it is Chinese policy, it is an attack by the >government of China against the US. If China simply allowed it, it is >similar to what the US allows against China. Otherwise, these folks >would be in jail with body parts falling, so we can discount that >option. I don't think it can be discounted so completely. Granted, if the PRC were to punish by death Chinese citizens that hack the US, it might diminish the activity, but they are (reportedly) quite brutal in trying to extinguish Falun Gong, and they have not succeeded. Then, perhaps their networks are so well organized, they can always trace packets to their correct source ... :) ___tony___ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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