Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1329-992280976-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7988 invoked by uid 510); 11 Jun 2001 16:36:52 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (64.211.240.235) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 16:36:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1329-992280976-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2001 17:36:16 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 11 Jun 2001 17:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 67068 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2001 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-2.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.82) by mta3 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 17:36:14 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-2.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id KAA22219; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id KAA25587; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010611102352.00af42e0@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20010609061730.57363.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608185303.00b90770@poptop.llnl.gov> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:43:46 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Morphing and Other Impersonations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To c.b.r and all, Indeed, I understand the threat which impersonation imposes. It was about 10 years ago when the cover of time magazine showed Albert Einstein dancing with Marilyn Monroe, and the cover title was Digital Retouching The End of Photography as Evidence of Anything I recall being chilled to the bone, realizing just what this meant. These kinds of change threaten much, but most of all they threaten our previous assumptions about the nature of channels we can trust. If technology undermines those channels, we can either try to curtail that technology (unlikely in my estimation) or we can learn to adapt to new channels, or more specifically, develop communication regimes that employ "k of n" channels. When we learn that we may not be able to trust any single TV or radio channel, or any particular newspaper photo or article, we must develop the habit of subscribing to many different "channels", too many for an attacker to subvert all at once. This habit must become engrained in our way of viewing the world. Such a "multi-channel" regime serves to thwart the attacker, but is unpopular both for its difficulty to exercise (most folks have their "favorite channel" and that's it), and for the fact that it threaten's a government's ability to control even the views provided domestically. Perhaps entirely new ways of obtaining and distributing "news" will evolve. The fact remains: If someone can subvert that which is considered "me" (fingerprints, retina, whatever else) then I have no choice but to "revoke" these by making them ever more easily accessible, and work toward developing a more dynamic sense of "me" that does not stand still. (By the way, good examples of the threat of impersonation!) ___tony___ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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