RE: [iwar] Chinese IW-one more thought

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Subject: RE: [iwar] Chinese IW-one more thought
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yes, leo, but a powerfully focused and large computer network primarily
out of bejing is what makes them a problem.  Unlike western
intelligence agencies who send one highly skilled operator out to do a
job, the Chinese are very labor intensive and car no if 5 of 6
Iwarriors fail.  If the 6th, al in seperate cells succeeds, then they
have won the day.
--- "Leo, Ross" <Ross.Leo@csoconline.com> wrote:
> I must agree with Fred.   A lack of substantial economic resources
> simply
> creates the "Mother of Invention" for these folks.  With no large
> state
> subsidies, they must get creative in their approach, that's all. 
> State
> endorsement is free (with the non-monetary reward of a "Get out of
> Jail Fee"
> card for example).  Those who wage IWAR have the same advantages of
> the
> stereotypical terrorist - small size, wide dispersement, ability to
> disappear into a crowd (or be invisible in the first place), and the
> appearance of great mobility.  Finding them, in any sense, is far
> more
> difficult than their hiding from us.  They have a distinct advantage
> over us
> in this way, and the sad fact is we (the US) have provided them with
> most of
> the tools they are now using against us.
>  
> Ross A. Leo
> Ross A. Leo, CISSP, CBCP
> Director, IT Security Engineering
>     
> "Cry havoc! And let slip the dogs of war."  Wm. Shakespeare
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Cohen [ mailto:fc@all.net <mailto:fc@all.net> ]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 07:59
> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [iwar] Chinese IW-one more thought
> 
> 
> Per the message sent by e.r.:
> 
> ...
> >  Our country needs to learn that the short term notion of why using
> the
> > policy  that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" never lasts and
> > eventually comes back in our face.  While Russia is still a
> problem, it
> > economic fraility limits what they can do in a strategic sense in
> the
> > IWAR world.
> 
> To the contrary - it is exactly why they will use the asymetric
> advantage of the attacker today in the IWAR world.  Lower cost and
> risk
> for higher potential gain - plus they have a lot of skill here.
> 
> FC
> --
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