Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1512-996595302-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26917 invoked by uid 510); 31 Jul 2001 15:09:11 -0000 Received: from n25.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.75) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 15:09:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1512-996595302-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2001 16:06:44 -0000 X-Sender: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 31 Jul 2001 16:01:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 91499 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2001 16:01:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 Jul 2001 16:01:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n23.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.83) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 16:01:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu Received: from [10.1.2.109] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2001 16:01:07 -0000 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <9k6ko2+r1d4@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <72222DC86846D411ABD300A0C9EB08A156FD12@csoc-mail-box.csoconline.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 128.29.4.2 From: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:01:06 -0000 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Re: Chinese IW-one more thought Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- In iwar@y..., "Leo, Ross" <Ross.Leo@c...> wrote: > I agree completely with your point. Their advantage is augmented, as you > suggest, by several factors. One is the sheer numbers of potential > I-warriors at their disposal. I disagree with you here. Numbers has a very linear force multiplier. The sophistication of those tools has a non-linear force multiplier. What that force multiplier is--that is still an open question. I suggest that it is much, much more than linear, although I don't think it is exponential. > Second is their ability to put technology in > each of these myriad I-warriors' hands to prosecute their plan of campaign. Digital tools are trivial to replicate thereby making the numbers game trivial. Again, the technological sophistication is the dominant ingredient in this equation. One person with highly sophisticated tools will probably be able to outcompete tens to thousands. > Third, and most important, is the active endorsement of their government in > supporting this effort. Agreed, this doesn't hurt. > Add to this the seeming infinite patience they can > exercise as they proceed. > > This scenario compares favourably to the USA/NATO balance of airpower to > that of the former USSR - we chose the technological route, whereas the > Soviets went with numbers. Our planes may be able to knock out 6 of theirs, > but that doesn't matter if they put up 7 or more to each one of ours. > Ultimately they would still be flying and we would not. With the Chinese > (and possibly others), this is definitely a numbers game. In this case, > however, their numbers have the same technology we have. This scenario breaks for non-linear force multipliers. It's like comparing WMDs with manpower. A highly trained unit (10-20 people) with the most sophisticated tools is probably all you will ever need to perform just about any externally executed information operation (this doesn't include insider/infiltration operations--which have an even greater force multiplier). ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Secure your servers with 128-bit SSL encryption! Grab your copy of VeriSign's FREE Guide: "Securing Your Web Site for Business." Get it Now! http://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/go.cgi?a=n094442340008000 http://us.click.yahoo.com/n7RbFC/zhwCAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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