Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1623-998075185-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29118 invoked by uid 510); 17 Aug 2001 19:06:47 -0000 Received: from n19.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.69) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 17 Aug 2001 19:06:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1623-998075185-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2001 19:06:25 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 17 Aug 2001 19:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 80079 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2001 19:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Aug 2001 19:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14503.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.66) by mta3 with SMTP; 17 Aug 2001 19:06:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20010817190622.9106.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.78.123.195] by web14503.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:06:22 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010817113510.00b298d0@poptop.llnl.gov> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] News Item and a Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On question 1- sure war will still be primarily conventional, but having the ability to disinform, or shut down the bad guys on eliint at just the right time in a conventional fight would give the cyber wise side an advantage. Thanks for the info, tony. BethR --- Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> wrote: > At 08:43 AM 8/17/01 +0500, Ozair wrote: > >News Item > ><snip> > >By BBC Defence Correspondent Jonathan Marcus > >Now that the Bush Administration has belatedly given its approval > for > >the Pentagon to order the first batch of advanced F-22 warplanes > both > >the US Air Force and the aircraft's manufacturers - Lockheed Martin > - > >will be relieved. > > > >Many feared that the F-22 could become the first high-profile victim > of > >Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon reforms. > > > >Billed as a far-reaching attempt to re-shape the US military for the > >conflicts of the 21st century, the Rumsfeld reform process has run > into > >the sand. > > > >It has prompted strong opposition from both Congress and senior > serving > >officers. Reform there still will be, but there are growing doubts > about > >its scale and scope. > > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1495000/1495340.s > >tm > > > ><snip> > > > >Question > >How would this impact the ability to move towards the Information > >Warfare arena, would wars still be largely conventional? > > > Ozair, > > You are kidding, right? > > No matter how "mature" info warfare may become, I cannot imagine that > the > bullet and bomb manufacturers will have to worry about sales. > Information > operations will be only another tool in the arsenal. Despite the > advent of > laser-guided smart bombs and EM-pulse weapons, hoards of > machete-toting > humans are still a force to contend with. > > Other opinions welcome! > > ___tony___ > > > > Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> > Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Livermore, CA 94551-9900 > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Do you need to encrypt all your online transactions? Secure corporate intranets? Authenticate your Web sites? Whatever security your site needs, you'll find the perfect solution here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Bre3tC/Q56CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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