Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1624-998075389-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29243 invoked by uid 510); 17 Aug 2001 19:10:10 -0000 Received: from n31.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.81) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 17 Aug 2001 19:10:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1624-998075389-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by hp.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2001 19:09:49 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 17 Aug 2001 19:09:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 47110 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2001 19:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Aug 2001 19:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14509.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.168) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Aug 2001 19:09:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20010817190945.22874.qmail@web14509.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.78.123.195] by web14509.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:09:45 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20010817190622.9106.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] News Item and a Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> wrote: > On question 1- sure war will still be primarily conventional, but > having the ability to disinform, or shut down the bad guys on elint > or sigint could decide who wins a battle. If you do this at > the right time in a conventional fight, the cyber wise > side an advantage. Thanks for the info, tony. BethR > --- Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> wrote: > > At 08:43 AM 8/17/01 +0500, Ozair wrote: > > >News Item > > ><snip> > > >By BBC Defence Correspondent Jonathan Marcus > > >Now that the Bush Administration has belatedly given its approval > > for > > >the Pentagon to order the first batch of advanced F-22 warplanes > > both > > >the US Air Force and the aircraft's manufacturers - Lockheed > Martin > > - > > >will be relieved. > > > > > >Many feared that the F-22 could become the first high-profile > victim > > of > > >Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon reforms. > > > > > >Billed as a far-reaching attempt to re-shape the US military for > the > > >conflicts of the 21st century, the Rumsfeld reform process has run > > into > > >the sand. > > > > > >It has prompted strong opposition from both Congress and senior > > serving > > >officers. Reform there still will be, but there are growing doubts > > about > > >its scale and scope. > > > > > > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1495000/1495340.s > > >tm > > > > > ><snip> > > > > > >Question > > >How would this impact the ability to move towards the Information > > >Warfare arena, would wars still be largely conventional? > > > > > > Ozair, > > > > You are kidding, right? > > > > No matter how "mature" info warfare may become, I cannot imagine > that > > the > > bullet and bomb manufacturers will have to worry about sales. > > Information > > operations will be only another tool in the arsenal. Despite the > > advent of > > laser-guided smart bombs and EM-pulse weapons, hoards of > > machete-toting > > humans are still a force to contend with. > > > > Other opinions welcome! > > > > ___tony___ > > > > > > > > Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> > > Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center > > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > > Livermore, CA 94551-9900 > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! > Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get VeriSign's FREE GUIDE: "Securing Your Web Site for Business." Learn about using SSL for serious online security. Click Here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/KYe3qC/I56CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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