Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1884-1000471120-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16782 invoked by uid 510); 14 Sep 2001 12:39:07 -0000 Received: from n26.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.76) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 12:39:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1884-1000471120-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2001 12:38:44 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 14 Sep 2001 12:38:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13496 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 11:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Sep 2001 11:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO radius.wol.net.pk) (208.242.128.11) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 11:58:05 -0000 Received: from Ozair ([208.242.128.175]) by radius.wol.net.pk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA08585 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:52:31 +0500 (PKT) To: "Info War" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <001201c13d16$0ed501a0$6301a8c0@Ozair> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <200109141055.DAA23963@big.all.net> From: "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:09:06 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Possible mid-east cyber attacks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good point. Regards, Ozair -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:56 PM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Possible mid-east cyber attacks My objective in these efforts for extensive coverage of specific events is to provide a record of what is going on in terms of information warfare. That ranges from propaganda to technical attacks. At times like this, there is a great deal of propaganda, and I try to provide a collection of it for analysis and because I find it interesting. On the other hand, if the list members do not want to get this, I can certainly provide less of it. I personally find it fascinating that after an attack such as this the people with financial and political interests back off for a few hours and then push themselves right back into the market. I also find it disconcerting that personal liberties are under threat and that these political and financial agendas are often aided by the pain and suffering of others. In terms of 'holding the bag' I find the resulting collection of information highly informative and worthy of analysis. That's why I keep it as a collection on my web site for others to review at their leisure. In terms of fearmongers, I doubt that they like much of the iwar content. After all, they always have to face your comments and those of others who point out their fearmongering for what it is. FC Per the message sent by Junkmail Rosenberger: ... > Come now, young man! When will you gain control of your cyberwar > fetish? ... > Computer security firms like Vigilinx will exploit the physical > atrocity for its fearmongering value ... and then the media will > realize they've once again got a piece-of-shit news story ... and > they'll drop it on the sidewalk and walk away (without washing their > hands) ... and you'll be one of the fetishists who gets caught holding > the bag. Just like always. > Fearmongers love your cyberwar fetish.... --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Do you need to encrypt all your online transactions? Secure corporate intranets? Authenticate your Web sites? Whatever security your site needs, you'll find the perfect solution here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/wOMkGD/Q56CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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