Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1880-1000467300-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13457 invoked by uid 510); 14 Sep 2001 11:35:22 -0000 Received: from n27.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.77) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 11:35:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1880-1000467300-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2001 11:35:00 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 14 Sep 2001 11:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27045 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 10:55:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Sep 2001 10:55:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 10:55:47 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id DAA23963 for iwar@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:55:47 -0700 Message-Id: <200109141055.DAA23963@big.all.net> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <NDBBJBDJCGCKGDILPNNEAENNGKAA.junkmail@barnowl.com> from "Junkmail Rosenberger" at Sep 13, 2001 09:11:59 PM Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Possible mid-east cyber attacks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My objective in these efforts for extensive coverage of specific events is to provide a record of what is going on in terms of information warfare. That ranges from propaganda to technical attacks. At times like this, there is a great deal of propaganda, and I try to provide a collection of it for analysis and because I find it interesting. On the other hand, if the list members do not want to get this, I can certainly provide less of it. I personally find it fascinating that after an attack such as this the people with financial and political interests back off for a few hours and then push themselves right back into the market. I also find it disconcerting that personal liberties are under threat and that these political and financial agendas are often aided by the pain and suffering of others. In terms of 'holding the bag' I find the resulting collection of information highly informative and worthy of analysis. That's why I keep it as a collection on my web site for others to review at their leisure. In terms of fearmongers, I doubt that they like much of the iwar content. After all, they always have to face your comments and those of others who point out their fearmongering for what it is. FC Per the message sent by Junkmail Rosenberger: ... > Come now, young man! When will you gain control of your cyberwar fetish? ... > Computer security firms like Vigilinx will exploit the physical atrocity for > its fearmongering value ... and then the media will realize they've once > again got a piece-of-shit news story ... and they'll drop it on the sidewalk > and walk away (without washing their hands) ... and you'll be one of the > fetishists who gets caught holding the bag. Just like always. > Fearmongers love your cyberwar fetish.... --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Secure all your Web servers now: Get your FREE Guide and learn to: DEPLOY THE LATEST ENCRYPTION, DELIVER TRANSPARENT PROTECTION, and More! http://us.click.yahoo.com/k0k.gC/nT7CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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