Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1910-1000507967-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11866 invoked by uid 510); 14 Sep 2001 22:53:08 -0000 Received: from n17.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.67) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 22:53:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1910-1000507967-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2001 22:52:47 -0000 X-Sender: Ross.Leo@csoconline.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 14 Sep 2001 22:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9555 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 21:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Sep 2001 21:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO csoc-fire05.csoconline.com) (140.169.36.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 21:21:42 -0000 Received: from csoc-mail-msfc.csoconline.com by csoc-fire05.csoconline.com via smtpd (for mta1.onelist.com [208.48.218.7]) with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 21:20:21 UT Received: by csoc-mail-msfc.csoconline.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <QYZ62WHT>; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:21:20 -0500 Message-ID: <72222DC86846D411ABD300A0C9EB08A156FEC2@csoc-mail-box.csoconline.com> To: "'iwar@yahoogroups.com'" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Denise Poprock (E-mail)" <dfearn@pond.net> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) From: "Leo, Ross" <Ross.Leo@csoconline.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:21:42 -0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Current cyber attack indications Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I had to guess, I would say that those who might otherwise be occupied with trashing and attacking systems here (the ones we normally watch over) have turned their attention outward toward other, more immediate targets: Muslim and Arab-related targets here and abroad. This is both good and bad, as well as being a temporary phenomena ( I suspect). Eventually they will tire of such pursuits and return to their normal patterns. They too are only human. On the other hand, the WTC killing (in military vernacular, the buildings were killed) also killed good and bad people. We must be mindful that there are a lot of US resident Arab/Muslim folks (citizens and immigrants) that are neither responsible nor supportive of what happened, Some of these people lost loved ones in the disaster. A Mosque was burned in Denton, TX this week. This was most probably a reaction against a handy target by enraged and helpless-feeling people looking to vent. But the people attending the Mosque were probably not guilty of anything more than being Muslim and/or Arabic (no crime), and being handy. If we in our rage seek such innocent targets of opportunity to vent our anger upon, we become no better than those who destroyed the American landmark WTC. The world is filled with innocent people of all races and nationalities, and they don't all agree with us, which is okay. Rather, let's live up to the image we as a nation like others to have of us - of a nation that protects and defends the innocent against the aggressor and guilty - instead of becoming like those who would seek our destruction. Better still, let us become that image in fact. Having said that, we cannot allow the guilty to escape either. If that should happen, then many more innocents will die. To permit this would be an even greater miscarriage of the justice we hold so dear (enough to fight and die for it) than is the WTC murder. Ross Leo -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 13:59 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Current cyber attack indications According to folks I talk to the number of cyber attacks has gone way down since the bombings. Interesting phenomena. FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Secure all your Web servers now: Get your FREE Guide and learn to: DEPLOY THE LATEST ENCRYPTION, DELIVER TRANSPARENT PROTECTION, and More! http://us.click.yahoo.com/k0k.gC/nT7CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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