Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2139-1001043594-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10960 invoked by uid 510); 21 Sep 2001 03:40:41 -0000 Received: from n23.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.73) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 03:40:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2139-1001043594-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.220] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Sep 2001 03:40:19 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 21 Sep 2001 03:39:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 86119 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 03:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 21 Sep 2001 03:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 03:40:18 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id UAA06429 for iwar@onelist.com; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:40:18 -0700 Message-Id: <200109210340.UAA06429@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Feds.complain.Bin.Laden.not.using.hi-tech.equipment] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feds complain Bin Laden not using hi-tech equipment By Kieren McCarthy Posted: 20/09/2001 at 16:57 GMT Osama Bin Laden is evading detection by not using modern telecoms equipment, the US intelligence services have told the press. "He switched off a lot of communications technologies," a US intelligence spokesman said. "Now it is other people talking for him. In an innocuous conversation, you can't pick that out." Osama is so cunning, we are told, that he is now using human messengers and family members to deliver instructions. "This isn't low-tech," a former NSA consultant has been quoted as saying. "You'd have to really call it no-tech." Apparently, until this week, they knew just where he was by tracking his satellite phone and they traced his organisation by checking out Internet traffic and email. Now hang on a second. Are these the same intelligence agencies that have clearly failed to infiltrate Osama bin Laden's organisation and that were caught completely unawares when the greatest terrorist attack in history happened right on their own doorstep? Only last week, we were being told that increased surveillance - taps on all ISPs and a backdoor in encryption systems - was the only way to stop people like this. Now, seven days later, when hundreds of special forces personnel are crawling around Afghanistan looking for the man, we're told that all this technology and the billions spent on it are obsolete because he's turned his phone off. That we are blind as a mole. In fact, a mole is exactly what the West needs at the moment. Most companies have learnt that modern computer technology is nothing more than a tool - a useful tool, mind - and that it's knowledge and expertise among your staff that really cuts it. It would seem the intelligence services are not quite up to speed. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/XrFcOC/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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