Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2161-1001084005-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11263 invoked by uid 510); 21 Sep 2001 14:53:47 -0000 Received: from n15.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.65) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 14:53:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2161-1001084005-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Sep 2001 14:53:26 -0000 X-Sender: Ross.Leo@csoconline.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 21 Sep 2001 14:53:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 30867 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 14:53:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 Sep 2001 14:53:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO csoc-fire1.csoconline.com) (140.169.2.142) by mta3 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 14:53:25 -0000 Received: from [140.169.2.142] by csoc-fire1.csoconline.com via smtpd (for [208.48.218.7]) with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 14:53:24 UT Received: by csoc-mail-imc.csoconline.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <S5572HBC>; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:52:32 -0500 Message-ID: <72222DC86846D411ABD300A0C9EB08A156FF1B@csoc-mail-box.csoconline.com> To: "'iwar@yahoogroups.com'" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) From: "Leo, Ross" <Ross.Leo@csoconline.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:53:22 -0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Bus speech and some comments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I concur, Fred. Just as "temporary" tax increases (originally intended for specific purposes) seem unerringly to become permanent, expanding the powers of Government (also originally intended for a specific purpose) likewise seems to become a permanent scope and reach expansion. A short-term fix that creates a huge long-term problem. Sounds a little like a general synopsis of the US Foreign Policy since 1945. Scary, and deserving of much scrutiny. Ross Leo -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 09:45 To: iwar@onelist.com Subject: [iwar] Bus speech and some comments Bush's speech was, no doubt, the finest of his career, but underlying his comments were some issues I think are worth serious consideration. As many of you already know there were anti-war demonstrations by students throughout the US yesterday. They fear the draft, of going to war without a well defined enemy, and of the potential for government to assume too much power over peoples' lives. Bush asked for, among other things, lots of money, a poorly defined mission, and the right to not EVER tell our citizens what is actually being done. He also asked for expanded intelligence powers and lessenning of civil rights. We must watch such things very closely in my view. FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/XrFcOC/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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