Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2261-1001259547-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 23 Sep 2001 08:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20732 invoked by uid 510); 23 Sep 2001 15:40:17 -0000 Received: from n25.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.75) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2001 15:40:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2261-1001259547-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.220] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2001 15:39:54 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 23 Sep 2001 15:39:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 17428 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2001 15:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 23 Sep 2001 15:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isb.pol.com.pk) (216.252.186.212) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2001 15:39:35 -0000 Received: from Ozair ([202.179.146.205]) by isb.pol.com.pk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8NFcnB24383 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:38:50 +0500 To: "Info War" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000301c14447$7c337b40$6301a8c0@Ozair> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <200109231434.HAA06989@big.all.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From: "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:50:35 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] The definition of terrorism Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred, Thanks again for an enlightening information on the subject. Another conclusion arises out of this, it also means that Libya, Syria are not terrorists. Regards, Ozair -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 7:35 PM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] The definition of terrorism Per the message sent by Mohammad Ozair Rasheed: > Fred, > Thanks for the update on the subject from a wide range of sources, I > do not see the mention to terrorism being carried out by the un > identifiable elements being present in any one of the sources. > Regards, > Ozair You are correct. However, they are defined (by the US Congress) as being composed only of 'subnational' groups (although perhaps the term transnational would be a better one) or 'clandestine' groups. This then puts the Palestinians in the category of terrorists (by the US defniition and the fact they the US has not yet recognized them as a nation) while leaving (conveniently) Israel and the US out of it. Al-Qaida is in - because Afghanastan does not embrace it, while the KGB (when it existed) and CIA are out because they are affiliated with nation states - but wait - they are clandestine - so they do count as terrorists. As a separate question - does this mean that Bush is going to war against the terrorist and those who permit their training camps to exist within the US? As the whole world knows, the US is a prime breeding ground for soldiers of fortune as well as sub-national groups who try to commit premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatants. Is Bush really going after the CIA as well? Pretty dangerous if you ask me. One of the most popular and widely supported theories of the Kenedy assasination was that it was done by the CIA... FC > -----Original Message----- ... > 1996 Patterns of Global Terrorism Report: > No one definition of terrorism has gained universal acceptance. For > the purposes of this report, however, we have chosen the definition of > terrorism contained in Title 22 of the United States Code, Section > 2656f(d). That statute contains the following definitions: > The term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated > violence perpetrated against noncombatant(1) targets by subnational > groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an > audience. --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! 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