Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2502-1001718920-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17045 invoked by uid 510); 28 Sep 2001 23:15:34 -0000 Received: from n15.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.65) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 23:15:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2502-1001718920-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2001 23:15:20 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 28 Sep 2001 23:15:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 76574 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2001 23:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2001 23:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 23:15:19 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id QAA17596 for iwar@onelist.com; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:15:19 -0700 Message-Id: <200109282315.QAA17596@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] When will we be able to return fire for self-defense Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems to me that the thing we need to be able to do on a large scale is to be able to stop viruses that are coming close to the edge of causing global routing failures be launching denial of service attacks against computers that are causing the problems. Self-defense of the infrastructure... Currently illegal as far as I can tell - perhaps even terririst according to the proposed laws. FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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