Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2836-1002729280-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16491 invoked by uid 510); 10 Oct 2001 15:54:37 -0000 Received: from n34.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.84) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 10 Oct 2001 15:54:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2836-1002729280-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.222] by n34.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2001 15:54:40 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 10 Oct 2001 15:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 96605 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2001 15:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 10 Oct 2001 15:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Oct 2001 15:54:40 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id IAA04439 for iwar@onelist.com; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:54:40 -0700 Message-Id: <200110101554.IAA04439@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:War.Without.End] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wall Street Journal October 10, 2001 War Without End Following is an e-mail exchange that occurred Sept. 19 between a senior cadet at West Point and one of his professors, retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey. From 1996-2001, Gen. McCaffrey served as the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. He earned three Purple Hearts in Vietnam and led the 24th Mechanized Infantry Division in the Persian Gulf War. Cadet: Could you describe what you think the United States should consider as an "endstate" on the matter of dealing with terrorists? Eradication, containment, or some other option? And what would the United States consider the literal and figurative center of gravity? Gen. McCaffrey: Great issue to consider . . . we have too liberally borrowed from the language of science to deal with the imperfections of political and security analysis. There will be no endstate . . . we will, if successful, manage this chronic threat to our survival, economy, and self-confidence by dramatically lowering the risk. We will build a series of defensive programs that will make a multiple order of magnitude increase in our day-to-day security. Second, we will form a coalition based on common danger. Much of the globe will join us to leverage foreign intelligence services and security forces to fight these FTO's forward in the battle area. Finally, we will at last take the gloves off and use integrated military power to find, fix, and destroy these organizations. We are going to disrupt these people thru pre-emptive attack . . . we will deceive them, we will run psyops on them . . . at selected points and times they will be killed suddenly, in significant numbers, and without warning. Tomahawk missiles, 2000 lb laser guided weapons dropped from B2's or F22's at very high altitude, remote control booby traps, blackmail, and at places . . . small groups of soldiers or Seals will appear in total darkness . . . blow down the doors and kill them at close range with automatic weapons and hand grenades. We will find their money and freeze it. We will arrest their front agents. We will operate against their recruiting and transportation functions. We will locate their training areas and surveill or mine them. We will isolate them from their families. We will try to dominate their communication function and alternately listen, jam, or spoof it. We will make their couriers disappear. If we can find out how they eat, or play, or receive rewards, or where they sleep . . . we will go there and kill them by surprise. The military component will be a supporting but lesser aspect of a strategy that will be based fundamentally on diplomatic and economic leverage to compel cooperation with international law. Of prime importance, we must reduce the environmental factors that feed this type of extremist madness . . . foreign aid must be dramatically increased to address the misery and poverty of the Palestinians, the Afghans, the Sudanese and others. We must also not be unwilling to confront the State sponsors of terror . . . Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Cuba, North Korea . . . none can be allowed to provide the base for another sickening strike against our civilian population or our Allies. Conventional military power will be used at the end of the day to place at risk those states who present a direct threat to our security. If deterrence does not work with coherent political and economic measures in support of a threat capability . . . then their political will must be shattered with overwhelming violence directed at their armed forces and the political decision-makers. The big challenge will be to organize America to protect our transportation, our economic activity, our entertainment, etc., with minimal invasion of our privacy and our free movement. We will constrain domestic law enforcement through the protection of our Judicial System. We will ensure the unfettered operation of a free press. We will have to be zealous to protect the Bill of Rights and the dignity and safety of foreigners living among us during this war. We can do all of this. We have no option. The American people will depend on you and your fellow soldiers to step forward and stand between us and the barbarians. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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