Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3030-1003280454-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29195 invoked by uid 510); 17 Oct 2001 01:03:43 -0000 Received: from n5.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.55) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 01:03:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3030-1003280454-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by n5.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2001 01:00:54 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 17 Oct 2001 01:00:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 72818 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 01:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Oct 2001 01:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 01:00:53 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id SAA21588; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id SAA28652; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011016180308.00c7c330@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: azb@home.com Cc: Information Warfare Mailing List <iwar@yahoogroups.com> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:03:16 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:teve.Emerson.is.a."Jewish.Fanatic".(Propaganda.countering.his.repor ting)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who knows what Steve Emerson's affiliations are? More to the point, he's just been wrong too many times to be considered reliable. The way he's been wrong does indicate a certain bias, which needs to be considered with -any- source. MW On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Fred Cohen wrote: > [MK Note: The desperation of those attempting to white wash terrorism > is clearly displayed by this ad hominum attack on Steve Emerson. Steve > is a good investigative journalist whose views are disturbing to > Islamic apologists due to his truthful and insightful contents. > Radical Islamic groups such as CAIR has attempted unsuccessfully for > many years to silence him with false and misleading statements. ] > [AsharqAlawsatOct16,01.jpg] > > Tuesday, October 16, 2001 > Steven Emerson out to wreck Arab-US ties > By Jamal Khashoggi, Asharq Alawsat, Jedda, Saudi Arabia > > JEDDAH, 16 October — If the American administration has indeed given > Steven Emerson the authority to identify terrorists and their > supporters in Arab countries, there can be no doubt that it will > worsen relations between the United States and the Arab and Islamic > world. > The man is a Jewish fanatic. He does nothing to hide either his enmity > toward Muslims or his anti-Islam smear campaign. He is the type of a > man who coolly tells people who know nothing about Islam that "Muslims > wear a red headcover because they have a bloody mentality." > He told this to the American media when he produced a documentary on > "Jihad in America," which was transmitted and financed by a cultural > station supported by the US government and funded by donations, not > advertising. The program drew strong protest from Muslims both within > and outside the United States for its totally negative portrayal of > Islam and Muslims, without limiting the criticism to his alleged > culprits. > Emerson’s credibility was questioned soon after the Oklahoma bombing, > as he appeared on television to say that Muslims were behind it. He > was giving details of the crime at a time when the investigations were > in the initial stages. The whole hue and cry against Muslims suddenly > stopped, however, when it was announced that an American fanatic had > been responsible. > He, nevertheless, continued to collect information on Islamists with > the support of a number of pro-Israeli Congressmen and special > Congress panels and American research centers. He also presented > studies and analyses on "the danger posed by Islam." > With the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Emerson is back in the limelight > again. He introduces himself as an expert on terrorism and has close > relations with officials in the American administration. > This shows that he was behind some of the information which the US > Treasury Department used to prepare a list of 39 individuals and > groups who it is alleged are linked to Osama Bin Laden and his > Al-Qaeda organization. > The new list was not based on strict criteria, unlike the previous > list which was limited to those individuals and organizations actually > linked with Al-Qaeda — including those who appeared with Bin Laden or > those who made statements or fatwas or abducted Americans or carried > out terrorist operations against US interests. > The new list is based on suspicions, a method endorsed and perfected > by Emerson. He did this with the support of Congress after looking at > various books, speeches, Friday prayer sermons, intelligence reports > and whatever appeared in Arabic newspapers and magazines. > He is an expert on joining the dots and filling the gaps by way of his > analytical "expertise." Consequently, the new list included names who > have no connection whatsoever with Bin Laden. One example is Yassin > Abdullah Al-Qadi, a prominent businessman in Jeddah, who is well-known > among business circles within and outside the Kingdom. > The method of analysis adopted by people like Emerson will have > catastrophic results and lead the United States into an unending > crisis in its foreign relations. The inclusion on the list of the > Rabita Trust, which supports the Bihari refugees, is a clear example > of this mix-up. The trust works with the knowledge and acceptance of > the Pakistani government. Its honorary president is Pervez Musharraf. > It seems that the link which Emerson found is the presence of Wael > Hamza Jelaidan among the top officials of the charitable organization. > Emerson described Jelaidan as a founding member of Al-Qaeda and head > of its logistical operations, so he could be targeted in the air > attacks. > But the fact is that Jelaidan was an active relief worker in > Afghanistan throughout the second half of the 1980s and again during a > later, short period. He was also temporarily head of the Saudi Red > Crescent Society and the Muslim World League there. He had strong > relations with leaders of the various Afghan factions, in his capacity > as an official in charge of distributing largescale Saudi relief aid > to Afghan refugees. He had also established relations with then > Pakistani President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq and his successor former Prime > Minister Nawaz Sharif. > Jelaidan was one of the three people during that period who > represented Arabs assigned to Afghanistan and Peshawar. The other two > were the late Abdullah Azzam and Osama Bin Laden. It is well known > that Azzam and Jelaidan disagreed on the formation of Al-Qaeda, as > they were sure that enthusiastic youths would be uncontrollable once > they returned to their native countries. Therefore, their duty should > be restricted to Afghanistan’s operations, which were limited to aid > and military, in tandem with the Afghan Mujahedeen. > In fact, the writer of this article was present at a meeting that > consisted of the three leaders, when they were discussing the > viability of separating and forming an independent front for the Arab > fighters. This is exactly what Bin Laden was looking for. But Azzam > and Jelaidan had a different idea. They believed the Arab-Afghans > would serve the Afghan cause much better if they were distributed on > different fronts headed by Afghan leaders. This would be welcomed more > by Afghanistan’s leaders, they thought. > However, Jelaidan is known for his roles in arms transportation and > distribution and that is why Emerson is confident that Jelaidan is > well connected to Al-Qaeda and believes he was the logistics man. In > fact, Jelaidan’s mission was larger than what is believed as he used > to serve on many fronts and it is known that Bin Laden thought about > the formation of Al-Qaeda only in 1992. > US intelligence and the Pakistani security apparatus have more details > about the activities of Jelaidan, as the Americans then were the main > suppliers of arms through the Pakistanis. However, Peshawar was the > main depot for smuggling arms into Afghanistan and other bordering > points and with the help of Azzam, Jelaidan was able to smuggle arms > not only into central Afghanistan but further into the northern part. > The recipients of smuggled arms and weapons were many, including Ahmad > Shah Masood, who become famous as a result of Azzam’s propaganda. > Afterwards, Masood became as famous as Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and Abdul > Rasoul Sayyaf in his own right. > In fact, Jelaidan after 1990 left Bin Laden, as they no longer had > much in common. Then Bin Laden established his own front that > consisted of his Egyptian friends from the Jihad organization. At that > time, Azzam was killed along with two of his sons. We still don’t have > a clue who killed him. However, many wanted Azzam dead, including > Afghanistan’s communist intelligence apparatus and others who opposed > the establishment of Hamas (which became a reality by 1988). Hamas is > meant to be a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and the > role of Azzam in establishing Hamas cannot be ignored. Nonetheless, > there were rumors that Hekmatyar had a role in the murder of Azzam due > to his annoyance at the rise of his enemy Masood, with whom he was > being pressed to compromise. > Other rumors were directed at the Egyptians for their role in the > murder of Azzam. It is true that Azzam was not comfortable with the > Egyptians, as he used to say that they did not come to Afghanistan for > support but to serve their own interests. Moreover, the Egyptians > there never attended Friday prayers that were lead by Sheikh Azzam - > despite his high-ranking position among the Arabs. > Anyway, Jelaidan thereafter confined his operations toward aid and > joined the Muslim World League, moving between Islamabad and Peshawar. > > I remember on one occasion he told me that "Peshawar is a desolate > place after the murder of Azzam." The last significant role Jelaidan > played was a liaison between the warring Hekmatyar and Masood in > Kabul, along with other Muslim leaders. When he felt that his liaison > attempts were of no use to stop the warring parties, Jelaidan left > Afghanistan at the end of 1992. > Thereafter, Jelaidan settled in his home, Saudi Arabia, engaged in > commercial activities. He then joined the aid operations to Bosnia, > where he supervised temporarily the Saudi Aid Committee, the largest > aid organization then in Bosnia. During this period Jelaidan was away > from the Arab Mujahedeen, and it seems that his first experience with > them had not been encouraging. This was also because of the spread of > violence in many Arab countries, which was attributed to Arab-Afghans. > > However, security forces have never harassed Jelaidan since he settled > back down in the Kingdom. Nor have they abroad. This is evident by the > post he assumed as the supervisor of the Muslim World League > endowments. Therefore, it is unclear why the League’s endowments were > blacklisted or whether that is due to Jelaidan or other reasons. > Jelaidan has confirmed that the Pakistani government has ordered the > auditing of his financial statements and registers before the US > blacklisting. The officials in charge of this trust have expressed > their desire to cooperate with the US investigators. Also, the > Americans know that officials in the Pakistani government, including > the finance minister, are supervising its activities. > Denying the recent Washington Post report alleging that the trust and > Jelaidan had links with Al-Qaeda, Jelaidan said: "I want to emphasize > that there is no connection between the Rabita Trust for Repatriation > of Stranded Pakistanis or myself with Al-Qaeda or Osama Bin Laden. The > news story was completely baseless." > The members of the trust included Pakistan’s ministers of finance and > interior, Prince Talal ibn Abdul Aziz, secretary-generals of the > Muslim World League and the International Islamic Relief Organization > and President of the Council of Saudi Chamber of Commerce. > "Being the secretary-general of the Rabita Trust, I strongly condemn > such irresponsible news coverage which was released without > confirmation or any investigation. The fund received by the Rabita > Trust is very limited and transparent. We therefore invite all the > concerned authorities to check the accounts of the trust thoroughly > and find out the truth," Jelaidan said in a press statement. > Is the charge against Jelaidan a new invention of Emerson, who called > Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi a terrorist and succeeded in blocking his > visa to the US more than a year ago? The charge against pilots of > Saudi Arabian Airlines, which were later dropped, could also have been > Emerson’s inventions. Or are there other American schemes at work? > We should be prepared for a smear campaign, which aims to widen the > gulf of mistrust between Arabs and Muslims on the one hand and the > West and the United States on the other. > > > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------------ Yahoo! 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