Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3194-1003724283-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4953 invoked by uid 510); 22 Oct 2001 04:17:35 -0000 Received: from n16.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.66) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 04:17:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3194-1003724283-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.224] by n16.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2001 04:17:58 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 22 Oct 2001 04:18:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 92952 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2001 04:18:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 22 Oct 2001 04:18:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy) (208.242.128.175) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 04:17:58 -0000 Received: from Ozair ([192.168.1.99]) by proxy with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:15:46 +0500 To: "Info War" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000c01c15ab2$04d91a60$6301a8c0@Ozair> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20011021205229.1065.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2001 04:15:46.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[3992F200:01C15AB0] From: "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: ozair_rasheed Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:28:35 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Reluctant UN joins the fray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that Beth's comments are more of a 'knee-jerk' reaction than anything else and are bordering on the same edge of fanaticism as that of which everyone is trying to control. Regards, Ozair -----Original Message----- From: e.r. [mailto:fastflyer28@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:52 AM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Reluctant UN joins the fray If the UN wants to call a halt to the bombing, they should first remember the butchers who murdered over 5,000 Americans on 11 Sept and then think about proportionality of the response. By stopping the Afgan attack we, in the US, run the risk of letting our countrymen and women die in yet another terrorist attack to make the UN happy. Not a chance and you can bet the US and the UK will Veto any effort to do so. Do you think the perps of that horriffic attack should be left alone? Do you think the Taliban are interested in building up their nation? They have no interest in the heart of Islam, only there twisted interpretation of the Koran which procvides them weak religious cover. The answer is they will build you up, by ignore the 50+% of the population who are women. If you are a terrorism and attack Americans who are innocents to your cause, you can bet that we will come after you, with the UN's permission, or not. --- yangyun@metacrawler.com wrote: > Reluctant UN joins the fray > > War in Afghanistan: Observer special > War on Terrorism: Observer special > > Tim Judah in Khoja Bahoudin, Afghanistan > Sunday October 21, 2001 > The Observer > > Immediately after the two planes smashed into the World Trade Centre > buildings on 11 September the emergency procedures at the United > Nations headquarters building on the East River went into operation. > Staff at first were ushered into the basement, then sent home after > an > hour or so. But, in the weeks that followed, UN watchers began to > wonder if they had ever really returned. > > Right after the attacks Kofi Annan, the UN Secretary General, issued > ritual condolences and condemnations, but, with the world in crisis, > the > UN seemed conspicuous by its absence - at least in public. > > Now, as US and British planes pound Afghanistan, sources at UN > headquarters say Annan has ordered his political affairs officials to > shift > into high gear. An emergency task force has been set up to formulate > responses to the war on terrorism. But there is mounting disquiet > among UN officials. They are terrified that the US has begun moves to > > dump responsibility for sorting out the mess that will be post-war > Afghanistan on the UN. > > The Integrated Mission Taskforce (IMT) is co-ordinating the work of > top UN officials dealing with the crisis. 'Given our past experience,' > said a > UN staffer who asked for anonymity, 'we are trying to be prepared > this > time.' > > Annan and Lakhdar Brahimi - his Special Representative for > Afghanistan, and a former Algerian Foreign Minister - held a meeting > on > Thursday with Richard Haass, the US State Department official in > charge of Afghanistan, and John Negroponte, the US Ambassador to > the UN. The next day Brahimi held talks with the US administration in > > Washington. > > Over the past few days Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, has > mooted the idea of a post-Taliban UN peacekeeping force for > Afghanistan. But UN officials are horrified by the idea. They fear > being > stuck with trying to sort out an almost impossible mess, the legacy > of > 22 years of war. > > 'We have been burned too often,' said the source, referring to the UN > > missions in Bosnia and Croatia between 1991-95. Officials are still > bitter about these, believing the US undermined them and that the UN > was then blamed for their failure. Now UN officials are loath to > mount > a 'mission impossible' just to help the US. > > Even the fact that President George W. Bush has suddenly told Annan > that the US will pay the bulk of its longstanding arrears to the > world > body is not helping assuage UN scepticism. > > 'What have they got in mind?' asked the source. 'For how long? What > would the mandate be? The US would like to move quickly and declare > a situation where the UN takes over but we are saying this cannot be > rushed. The conditions are not there to think of deploying troops, > let > alone anything else.' > > One idea mooted is that the UN could take a similar role to the one it > played in Cambodia, in the run-up to the elections it supervised in > May > 1993. There, a peace process became possible because the great > powers and Cambodia's neighbours concluded that the conflict had > gone on too long. This consensus meant they were able to compel the > Khmer Rouge, the Vietnamese-backed government and Prince > Sihanouk, the former monarch, to make a deal. > > In the wake of that agreement a UN peacekeeping force poured into the > > country alongside UN administrators, who ran the country until > elections were held. > > Superficially there are comparisons. The great powers, and > Afghanistan's neighbours, want an end to the conflict and probably > have > the power to compel the warring factions to come to the table. > Afghans > are exhausted by the war just as Cambodians were. And, just as a > former monarch presided over the transition in Cambodia, > Afghanistan's > former king, the exiled 86-year-old Zahir Shah, could play a similar > role. > > But that is where the similarities end. A crucial difference is that > in Cambodia the conflict was not overlaid with deep ethnic splits as > it is in > Afghanistan. And as the UN source points out: 'In Cambodia you had a > framework for peace. In Afghanistan you don't.' > > When he visited Islamabad on Tuesday Colin Powell appeared to > endorse the proposal of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf that a > future government of Afghanistan should include 'moderate Taliban > elements'. This enrages Northern Alliance officials such as Abdullah > Abdullah, the Foreign Minister of the anti-Taliban alliance, who says > > there is no such thing as a 'moderate Taliban element'. > > In the Panjsher valley, Northern Alliance officials are now choosing > 60 delegates who are to be joined by another 60 representing Zahir > Shah. > > Their job will be to form a Grand Council, whose aim is to prepare an > > administration and broaden the base of the anti-Taliban coalition to > include Pashtuns, the largest single ethnic group in the country. > > Given the diplomatic dynamics, it is quite possible the moves afoot at > the UN, the US and in the Panjsher valley will come together. This > may > well result in a UN force for Afghanistan and aid in rebuilding the > country's shattered administration and economy. > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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