Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3327-1003862560-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29521 invoked by uid 510); 23 Oct 2001 18:42:09 -0000 Received: from n6.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.56) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 23 Oct 2001 18:42:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3327-1003862560-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.224] by n6.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2001 18:42:40 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 23 Oct 2001 18:42:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 95799 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2001 18:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 23 Oct 2001 18:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 23 Oct 2001 18:42:39 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f9NIh1Z23800 for iwar@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:43:01 -0700 Message-Id: <200110231843.f9NIh1Z23800@red.all.net> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <000001c15bf3$21f0e320$6301a8c0@crestech.com> from "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" at Oct 23, 2001 11:47:11 PM Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] them's fightin' words Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per the message sent by Mohammad Ozair Rasheed: > Like a bull (elephant) in a china shop? Like someone who understands that we have to stop treating people as so fragile that they cannot handle the truth as we see it. These fragile alliances are really not alliances at all - and the US has to stop treating them like that if they want to claim any sort of moral high ground. And if the US doesn;t want to claim moral high ground, then the assertions of those who bomb the US that the Us caused it all by failing to address their suffering becomes a credible argument. FC > Regards, > Ozair > <snip> It may well be time for the US to stop being so quiet and start > taking more boisterous positions on some issues. Not a cowboy response > - but rather an all out assault on those who promulgate hatred in their > rhetoric - starting at home... with extremists on both sides of the > political line. > Unfortunately, Bush cannot do it because it is the right wing extremists > in the US who put him in place and the left wing extremists who provided > fodder for the fire that allowed him to claim morality. > Only getting started... > FC > --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to > serve-- > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & > Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > fc@all.net The University of New > Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > ------------------ > http://all.net/ > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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