Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3461-1004068274-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1700 invoked by uid 510); 26 Oct 2001 03:50:39 -0000 Received: from n9.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.59) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 03:50:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3461-1004068274-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by n9.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2001 03:51:14 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 26 Oct 2001 03:51:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4632 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 03:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Oct 2001 03:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 03:50:14 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f9Q3oJG28754 for iwar@onelist.com; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:50:19 -0700 Message-Id: <200110260350.f9Q3oJG28754@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:German.Carriers.Told.To.Install.Cyber-Snooping.Tech] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit German Carriers Told To Install Cyber-Snooping Tech By Steve Gold, Newsbytes, 10/25/2001 <a href="http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/171516.html">http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/171516.html> The German government has rushed through proposals forcing telcos to install cyber-snooping technology that would give police and security agencies access to most German communications. While the proposals have been on the table for almost five years, their progress was held back prior to the events of Sept. 11 because of consumer privacy issues and the costs of installing surveillance systems at smaller Internet service providers (ISPs). However, the German government passed the proposed legislation late yesterday, with an important amendment that its provisions would only apply to fixed and wireless telcos, but not to ISPs. Surveillance of telco links has been legal - with a court order - for many years in Germany. The new legislation seeks to automate the process, and move the costs of surveillance from the government to the carriers, officials said. German Internet users may not feel comfortable that that their e-mail and Web surfing habits will be ignored being ignored by the security services and other government agencies, however. This is because most telcos act as Internet traffic carriers on behalf of various ISPs. Rather than requiring surveillance at the ISP end of the link, the new legislation allows Internet traffic to be monitored automatically at the telco's side of the connection. The new legislation does not kick in until Jan. 1, 2005, but major communications carriers must start work now on installing the technology in their exchanges, Steffan Grosse, an IT security specialist with Bitkom, told Newsbytes. Bitkom (Bundesverband Informationswirtschaft, Telekommunikation und neue Medien) - the German association for IT, telecommunications and new media - says its members have accepted the new legislation as a necessary compromise between consumer privacy and security issues. "We have agreed the legislation with one major change, that it does not apply to ISPs. Smaller telecommunications carriers have some time to start installing the systems, but the major ones must start immediately," Grosse said. Grosse added that several human rights groups have been involved in the discussions about the proposed law, but the events of Sept. 11 in the U.S. meant that the legislation's progress had to be accelerated through the government. Despite this, several German privacy groups and affiliate organizations are said to be less than pleased with the speed with which the legislation was rushed through the federal government. The Chaos Computer Club (http://www.ccc.de ) and the Humanist Union (http://www.humanist.de ) have issued statements condemning the new legislation, which forms part of the second wave of anti-terrorist laws being passed by the government. Bitkom's Web site is at http://www.bitkom.org . The German Federal Government's Web site is at <a href="http://www.bundesregierung.de">http://www.bundesregierung.de> . ------------------------ Yahoo! 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