Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3522-1004194068-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21376 invoked by uid 510); 27 Oct 2001 14:48:25 -0000 Received: from n32.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.82) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 14:48:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3522-1004194068-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by n32.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2001 14:49:03 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 27 Oct 2001 14:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 95224 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2001 14:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Oct 2001 14:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.isd.wol.net.pk) (208.242.129.253) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Oct 2001 14:47:35 -0000 Received: from ozair ([65.202.13.76]) by mail.isd.wol.net.pk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA16749 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:45:25 +0500 (PKT) To: "Info War" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <001201c15ef7$c91341a0$6301a8c0@crestech.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200110261357.f9QDvcq14081@red.all.net> From: "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: ozair_rasheed Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:57:59 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Perception management - is that all? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Computer attacks are no longer subtle. Ref YIHAT :) And I guess these days YIHAT is getting more bang than the buck. Regards, Ozair -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:58 PM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Perception management - is that all? Per the message sent by Mohammad Ozair Rasheed: > Lets say that Perception Management is ice cream and the rest are > toppings :), but the focus is still perception management, after all a > few hacked websites spurs antivirus companies, developers and security > officials and most of all general public into "battle-mode". I think that the reason you see so much PM in this war has more to do with the players. There is plenty of technical potential, and the US is certainly trying to use it wherever possible (not that they tell me), but the typical 'terrorist cell' gets more bang for the buck and requires less technical skill in blowing things up or dumping checmicals into buildings than by trying subtle computer attacks. FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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