Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3562-1004314849-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 28 Oct 2001 16:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1381 invoked by uid 510); 29 Oct 2001 00:20:09 -0000 Received: from n20.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.70) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 00:20:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3562-1004314849-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by n20.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2001 00:19:58 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 29 Oct 2001 00:20:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 91210 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 00:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2001 00:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 00:20:49 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f9T0L7O23547 for iwar@onelist.com; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 16:21:07 -0800 Message-Id: <200110290021.f9T0L7O23547@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 16:21:07 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Military.Proposes.a.'Roll-the-Dice'.Raid.Against.Taliban.Leadership] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SOURCE: Newsweek Rumsfeld Puts Pressure on Central Command to Come up With Creative War Plans; Military Proposes a 'Roll-the-Dice' Raid Against Taliban Leadership Pentagon Officials Say First U.S. Ranger Raid in Afghanistan Was Met With Swift, Well-Organized Resistance Former Reagan National Security Adviser Says Haq Was Not Backed by CIA NEW YORK, Oct. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Under pressure from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to offer more creative war plans, Central Command -- the Florida-based U.S. headquarters of the campaign against the Taliban -- has proposed what one informed source characterized to Newsweek as a ``roll-the-dice'' raid against the Taliban leadership. Assuming that U.S. special forces can find the Taliban leaders (no mean feat), the commandos may be in for a tough fight. Pentagon officials tell Newsweek in the November 5 issue that, contrary to earlier public reports, the initial paratroops assault by U.S. Special Forces on October 21 met surprisingly swift and well-organized resistance. And the obstacles to capturing Taliban leaders or Osama bin Laden are daunting, report Assistant Managing Editor Evan Thomas and Beijing Bureau Chief Melinda Liu in the current issue (on newsstands Monday, October 29). The military must contend with the fast-approaching Afghan winter, rugged mine-strewn battlefields, and the near impossible task of waging all-out war against Islamic extremists without offending Islamic sensitivities. But the biggest trap may be dealing with Afghanistan's notoriously fickle warlords. Buying an Afghan warlord requires a complicated courtship. Offering a bag full of cash is deemed to be offensive. First must come much talking and many cups of tea and promises of good works and, most important, some kind of job security, like a governorship. Yet, Gen. Hamid Gul, the retired chief of the Pakistani intelligence service, the ISI, offers a more nuanced rule of thumb: ``They say you can always rent an Afghan. But you can never be sure you own them.'' The agency in charge of lining up the right warlords is the CIA. In an interview with Newsweek last week, Robert C. McFarlane, the Reagan Administration national security adviser, said the CIA ``has failed miserably. There's an appalling lack of intelligence skills. I haven't yet found one Dari speaker in the agency -- or anyone who speaks any other Afghan dialect, for that matter. Or any analyst with real knowledge of Afghanistan's history, its tribal cultures, the networks that exists here.'' But American officials are wary of former Afghanistan chieftains who suddenly appear offering to produce miracles, for a price. Just a month ago, a former Afghan commander, Haji Zaman Ghamshirik, returned from exile in France and opened a guest house in Peshawar, Pakistan. He recently offered to play Let's Make a Deal with U.S. officials. ``He phoned at 9:50 one night saying he could deliver Osama bin Laden and bring down the Taliban,'' a knowledgeable foreign diplomat tells Newsweek. ``He just wanted a guarantee that he would get the $5 million reward, a satellite phone, and the governorship of Nangarhar Province.'' Newsweek also reports a denial that Abdul Haq, the scion of an Afghan ruling class family who was killed by the Taliban last week, was not sent into Afghanistan as a bagman for the CIA. McFarlane, who was acting as a kind of informal adviser to Haq, says he was not backed by the agency and that the CIA turned down Haq's requests for weapons, helicopter airlift, and a field radio. The agency did offer to provide the old rebel leader with a satellite phone, but Haq dismissively replied that he already owned several. U.S. government sources say the CIA was wary of Haq, considering him a maverick and a bit of a self-promoter. Later, when Haq was surrounded by the Taliban, McFarlane did appeal for a U.S. air mission to help him, but it arrived too late. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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