Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3618-1004431105-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18707 invoked by uid 510); 30 Oct 2001 08:37:43 -0000 Received: from n21.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.71) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 08:37:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3618-1004431105-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.54] by n21.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2001 08:37:17 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Oct 2001 08:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 87369 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 08:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2001 08:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy) (208.242.128.175) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 08:38:19 -0000 Received: from ozair ([192.168.1.99]) by proxy with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:27:01 +0500 To: "Info War" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000901c160f4$842b4700$6301a8c0@crestech.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011029095159.00c401b0@poptop.llnl.gov> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2001 03:27:01.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD190450:01C160F2] From: "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: ozair_rasheed Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:39:44 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] [fc:Arab.world.poverty.--.whose.fault?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony, Well, it is pointless to continue on what you said and I said. One last comment, I am not sure you are too conservative in this statement "...."Taliban", which is only Muslim by some great stretch of the imagination...". For I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, you do not appear to have knowledge of what is a Muslim and what is not, even I do not (simply because I am not an expert on this subject), so lets not get into this debate. Regards, Ozair -----Original Message----- From: Tony Bartoletti [mailto:azb@llnl.gov] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:58 PM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] [fc:Arab.world.poverty.--.whose.fault?] My comments addressed the statement that "None but the Muslims" are to blame for their conditions. That statement is far broader than "Taliban", which is only Muslim by some great stretch of the imagination. My comments address the entire Muslim and Arab world, vis-a-vis the west, historically. Or shall we proclaim that history plays no part in the events of 9/11? I hold the Taliban to be largely responsible for "their" fate. ____tony____ At 10:21 PM 10/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >Whose fault? A three year long drought that has turned into a famine. >No real government. The Taliban are not recognized as a government >with the exception of Iraq-not a great character reference for a >government. 50% of the population who cannot go to school and have >limited access to healthcare(Women) and a nation that is run by war >lords in the post soviet war era. That is a simple recipe for total >national collapse. If you ad in their perpelual "guest" Mr. Bin Laden, >you have turned what nation you have into public enemy number one, even >in the arab world in some cases. > >Whose fault is the peoples suffering? The bad guys can start taking >numbers. We just came on the scene after 11 Sept and the Russian's >like the fact that while it is not the intent, Islam is being kept down >if you can call what the Taliban think of as Islam. > >--- Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> wrote: > > While I largely agreed with the article, it may be a bit too broad > > to say "None but the Muslims". Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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