Return-Path: <sentto-279987-3814-1005230760-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 08 Nov 2001 06:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20457 invoked by uid 510); 8 Nov 2001 14:46:48 -0000 Received: from n23.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.73) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 8 Nov 2001 14:46:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-3814-1005230760-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.1.220] by n23.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2001 14:47:44 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 8 Nov 2001 14:46:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 86341 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2001 14:46:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2001 14:46:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2001 14:45:59 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id fA8Ek9o06089 for iwar@onelist.com; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:46:09 -0800 Message-Id: <200111081446.fA8Ek9o06089@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:46:09 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Police.get.sweeping.access.to.net.data] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Police get sweeping access to net data Blunkett will not limit scope of measure to terrorist cases Stuart Millar, technology correspondent Wednesday November 7, 2001 The Guardian Sweeping proposals to give law enforcement agencies access to the communications records of every UK telephone and internet user will not be restricted to anti-terrorist investigations, despite assurances to the contrary from the home secretary. The Guardian has established that the detailed communications data to be retained as part of the government's response to the September 11 attacks will be available to police investigating minor crimes. It will also be available for tax collection and public health and safety purposes. Home Office officials involved in implementing the proposals in a voluntary code of practice with the providers have confirmed there are no plans to limit access to cases involving national security. This directly contradicts what appeared to be an assurance given by David Blunkett, the home secretary, two weeks ago in an attempt to soothe the fears of civil liberties campaigners about the privacy implications of blanket data retention. In his column in Tribune on October 26, Mr Blunkett acknowledged that internet and phone data retention raised serious concerns. But he said that more information was needed than was available under current law "strictly in the case of a criminal investigation against suspected terrorists. "That is why we are working with companies on a code of practice with the result they will keep billing records for longer than at present, to allow access in relation to anti-terrorist activity". According to the Foundation for Information Policy Research, an independent internet think tank, data involved would provide a "complete map of an individual's life". It is likely to include details of email addresses they have communicated with, which internet service providers they use, when they used them and which sites they visited while online. Officials now claim that Mr Blunkett did not actually mean that the information would only be used for anti-terrorist investigations. Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, passed last year, law enforcement agencies can obtain communications data without a court order for a broad range of purposes. These include national security, preventing or detecting crime and disorder, protecting public health and safety and collecting tax. One official told the Guardian: "The data will be available for the full range of purposes listed in the act." Mark Seddon, the editor of Tribune and a member of Labour's national executive committee, said: "He would have known that all the civil liberties campaigners like Liberty would have read Tribune and that piece would have done the rounds." Simon Hughes, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said: "We understand the argument for data retention for specific purposes under terror legislation for the period of an emergency. There is a different argument, with much less justification, for general powers from now, in theory, until eternity." The development is likely to cause consternation among some internet and phone companies. Steve Rawlinson, chief technical officer of Claranet, which has about 500,000 customers in the UK, said: "The request that came through after the US attacks to collect certain types of data was reasonable because it was being used for an anti-terrorist investigation. "What worries us is that under Ripa [the act], the criteria for access are pretty broad, so the police can demand the whole lot whenever they want on their own authority." Tomorrow, the Commons home affairs committee will begin hearing evidence as it considers the emergency anti-terror bill, which is expected to be passed later this month. Last night a Home Office spokeswoman denied that Mr Blunkett had intended the Tribune article to mean that the information would only be used against suspected terrorists. She said: "The article was by necessity an abridged version of the proposals we are bringing forward." ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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