Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4061-1008353579-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2078 invoked by uid 510); 14 Dec 2001 18:13:11 -0000 Received: from n23.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.73) by all.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2001 18:13:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4061-1008353579-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.187] by n23.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Dec 2001 18:12:59 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 14 Dec 2001 18:12:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 44227 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2001 18:12:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Dec 2001 18:12:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (12.232.125.69) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2001 18:12:58 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id fBEIDik10415 for iwar@onelist.com; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:13:44 -0800 Message-Id: <200112141813.fBEIDik10415@red.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:13:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [iwar] [fc:Were.DrinkOrDie.Raids.Overkill?] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Were DrinkOrDie Raids Overkill? By Farhad Manjoo 2:00 a.m. Dec. 13, 2001 PST To hear the federal government and piracy experts describe it, DrinkOrDie, the network of software crackers that was the focus of worldwide anti-piracy law enforcement action on Tuesday, is the al-Qaida of Internet software theft. The U.S. Customs Service called the group "the oldest and most well known" of Internet piracy organizations, describing it as a loose affiliation of computer experts who operate as sleepers in our midst, ready to drop their cover and crack the latest copy of Photoshop at any instant. "They come from all walks of life. Many are successful white-collar business people by day, and DrinkOrDie members by night," the department said in a statement. Customs said that it has "identified members who are corporate executives, computer network administrators at major U.S. universities, employees of large hi-tech companies, students, and even government workers." But when the news broke that the Customs Service, the Department of Justice and foreign authorities executed at least 100 search warrants in the United States, Australia, England, Finland and Norway on Tuesday in an attempt to "dismantle" DrinkOrDie, a lot of people were puzzled. According to the evidence available from several cracking sites, Internet newsgroups and members of the Warez -- or "software cracking" -- community, DrinkOrDie was small potatoes in the world of software theft. The group made its name in 1995 by cracking Windows 95 before it was released; since then, it has kind of disappeared. "I knew of but didn't know the DrinkOrDie guys," wrote a 24-year-old Australian software pirate who asked to remain anonymous, "but I thought they were mostly out of the Warez scene actually -- heard their main guys were doing Web design. Yeh, they were respected, they did some good work, y'know? But they aren't the first to come to mind when you think to yourself 'whose (sic) the big deal in the scene?'" Some members of the group were indeed reported to be working in Web design rather than piracy in recent years. The group even had a website -- at www.drinkordie.com -- that has been called one of the premier resources for Russian hackers, but which has been offline since Tuesday's raids. A search of the "binaries" newsgroups at Usenet, which is where many software-cracking utilities are traded, similarly illustrates DrinkOrDie's absence from the scene. You might find evidence of a DoD program to "rip" DVDs or to crack some expensive image-processing software, but nothing there is very recent, or very compelling. "A search on www.newscheck.cc reveals there were 40,865 Warez releases in the last seven months, of which only 411 were by DoD," wrote a poster called Cryogenes on Slashdot. "Even if DoD is knocked out completely, every application and every game will still be cracked and distributed within 48 hours of release." According to the Customs Service, "the group was founded in Moscow in 1993 by a Russian individual known as 'Deviator.' Membership quickly expanded from a group of Russian nationals to worldwide membership by 1995." Deviator is likely Jimmy Jamez -- not his given name -- who, along with another guy called Cyber Angel, is credited with DrinkOrDie's early success. In a 1995 interview with a Warez 'zine, he described the group: "This is all for fun," Jamez said. "Like another side of your life. I plan to stay active for some more time and after all, quit. We have a well-prepared internal work system -- I can call it an infrastructure. Different dudes do different work for the main aim of the group, DoD." Cyber Angel, the deputy, said that DoD "will all leave the scene when we are tired, but in the case with me and (Jimmy Jamez) it will probably be way past the year 2000 :)." In the mid-'90s, the group seems to have cracked anything that came out -- big, expensive programs like 3Dstudio as well as small, forgettable programs that nobody uses anymore. A 1996 Warez 'zine rates a week in which DoD cracked 13 programs as being "nothing serious," though it was "quality work." Bob Kruger, who heads anti-piracy efforts at the Business Software Alliance, a software company trade organization, thinks that DrinkOrDie is still at the height of its piracy game. "They are a notorious elite Internet pirate organization," he told the Associated Press. "I doubt there's much (software) out there that people want that (DrinkOrDie) can't provide." He singled out a DrinkOrDie programmer called ForceKill as "one of the premier software crackers in the world." But other crackers weren't so kind, especially since the feds seemed to have clued in to DrinkOrDie's game. "Only peasants get caught," wrote MoRf, a cracker in Moscow, in an online chat room. Michelle Delio contributed to this report. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Break free. Great American Smokeout http://us.click.yahoo.com/3vN8tD/.pSDAA/ySSFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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