Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4194-1010089911-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31277 invoked by uid 510); 3 Jan 2002 20:32:12 -0000 Received: from n25.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.75) by all.net with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 20:32:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4194-1010089911-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.163] by n25.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2002 20:30:44 -0000 X-Sender: fc@red.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 3 Jan 2002 20:31:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15445 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 20:31:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2002 20:31:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO red.all.net) (12.232.125.69) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 20:31:50 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by red.all.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g03KW0o26203 for iwar@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:32:00 -0800 Message-Id: <200201032032.g03KW0o26203@red.all.net> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020103110108.00b87da0@poptop.llnl.gov> from "Tony Bartoletti" at Jan 03, 2002 11:10:06 AM Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> X-Yahoo-Profile: fcallnet Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:32:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:Most.troubled.by.net.security] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What amazed me is the final realization that the things that worked 30 years ago to attck systems still work today. When will this field get an engineering / scientific basis and approach? Never? FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Need new boots for winter? Looking for a perfect gift for your shoe loving friends? Zappos.com is the perfect fit for all your shoe needs! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ltdUpD/QrSDAA/ySSFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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