Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4421-1012837372-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 04 Feb 2002 07:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18177 invoked by uid 510); 4 Feb 2002 15:42:30 -0000 Received: from n1.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.51) by all.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 2002 15:42:30 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4421-1012837372-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.188] by n1.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2002 15:42:53 -0000 X-Sender: david.kennedy@acm.org X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 4 Feb 2002 15:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 96173 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2002 15:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2002 15:42:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta02.fuse.net) (216.68.1.120) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2002 15:42:50 -0000 Received: from 4000cdt ([66.161.181.118]) by mta02.fuse.net (InterMail vM.5.01.03.01 201-253-122-118-101-20010319) with SMTP id <20020204154250.WIWQ14376.mta02.fuse.net@4000cdt> for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:42:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020204104103.05ab2350@pop.fuse.net> X-Sender: dmkennedy@pop.fuse.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200202010138.g111cgD02419@red.all.net> From: David Kennedy CISSP <david.kennedy@acm.org> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:FBI.Raid.Silences.Teen.Anarchist's.Site] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 05:38 PM 1/31/02 -0800, Fred Cohen wrote: >Sherman Martin Austin, 18, is believed to have violated federal computer >fraud and abuse laws, as well as statutes prohibiting the distribution >of bomb-making information, according to an FBI affidavit. >"People can rant and rave on the Internet all they want, but when they >cross the line the line of calling people to action to violently >overthrow the constitution of the United States, they have a problem," >said McLaughlin. >According to the FBI, Austin allegedly defaced at least five commercial >Web sites since 1999 using the nickname "Ucaun." On three of the sites, >Austin left behind a hacking program named troop.cgi that was designed >to attempt to log in to a computer operated by the U.S. Army, the FBI >affidavit stated. >In the interview, Austin acknowledged that he vandalized the Web sites >and that he knew it was illegal to do so. But he defended the act by >saying it was necessary to get his message out. >Copies of the site's pages cached by Google include instructions on how >to make explosives from pipes, fertilizer, and match heads. While I agree with the sentiments in the thread regarding the First Amendment, I believe the scant details from McWilliams' story point towards illegal *actions* not just provocative speech/opinions. The FBI (McLaughlin) seems to recognize this as well. -- Regards, David Kennedy CISSP /"\ Director of Research Services, \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign TruSecure Corp. http://www.trusecure.com X Against HTML Mail Protect what you connect; / \ Look both ways before crossing the Net. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sponsored by VeriSign - The Value of Trust When building an e-commerce site, you want to start with a secure foundation. Learn how with VeriSign's FREE Guide. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kWSNbC/XdiDAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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