Return-Path: <sentto-279987-4481-1013826070-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21877 invoked by uid 510); 16 Feb 2002 02:21:23 -0000 Received: from n7.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.57) by all.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 02:21:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-4481-1013826070-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [216.115.97.164] by n7.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2002 02:21:10 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 16 Feb 2002 02:21:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13344 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2002 02:21:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2002 02:21:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.81) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 02:21:08 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id SAA29191 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id SAA16076 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:21:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020215182350.00c90220@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <OCEDLLJFJEMAFJGHDCLNIEMEDBAA.cpreston@gci.net> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:29:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [iwar] New vulnerability? Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 05:01 PM 2/15/02 -0900, you wrote: > >Message: 13 > > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:17:51 -0800 (PST) > > From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> > >Subject: The Therminator > >.... > >But the computers don't even have to be turned on, McEachen said. By > >simply being hooked up to an Internet modem, they are vulnerable to such > >probes. >.... > >Now I'm really getting worried. > >Maybe he doesn't mean "really off". Is he referring to WfM Wake on LAN? > >cmp Given the current trend, it may not be very long before vendors like Microsoft may be able to power-up your system remotely :) After all, the system isn't really "yours", they are just granting you a privilege to use it, within certain limits. /sarcasm? ____tony____ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/nuyOHD/7.PDAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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